wtf test sucks!!!!

[Spartie]

My training partner and I just finished our most recent cycle, which included a gram of test per week to start the first month. He didn't grow at all while I packed on 10 pounds that first month. We then added 50mgs of D-ball a day starting week 5, along with 400mg week of Deca, and then he blew up like a freak! Some people just don't get freakish on test alone, while I believe most do.

 

[Mudge]

but I also dont like test on its own either

Ditto, but for my FIRST cycle it rocked, fer sure.

 

[DADAWG]

test is one of the most balanced steroids out there as far as anabolic to androgenic ratios . i know some people say they cant grow off of test itself but it doesnt make sense . the only reason i see that you couldnt grow off of test by itself would be that you are at the level that your running such massive amounts of gear to grow that other compounds have to be thrown in to round out the cycle .
please note there are some well respected guys who say they dont grow well off of test so im not calling them out , just throwing this out for debate . some of the guys i just mentioned are in the megacycle range as far as doses go though so there experience doesnt equate for the average beginner or even intermediate juicer .

 

[mister69]

I know what you mean man, i know some (not many ) guys that can get away with not sleeping enough or eating enough and going out and getting shitty and still stay big. As for me i gave up getting drunk this past summer, just because i cant grow my body wont let me. For example if i go out on frid and get shitty, then i prob miss a lot of meals on sat cause i am hungover and i loose sleep. Doest work for me. So i made a choice and it was bodybuilding. I am an ecto and i have to eat so much and just keep using that blender for gainer shakes to gain weight,(i am always eating) and drinking shakes.

I hate genetics... i have buddies that can have a way worse diet, get fucked up EOD, get shitty rest, and still gain 20lbs or so... and not fat either<<<
I can take 800mg of test and 50mg dbol and gain NO water and have to eat like a MFer to see anything... and still I never BLOW up... only on my first cycle i gained like 12lbs in 3 weeks... ended up gaining 16lbs total for the cycle, and that was with a decent diet, nothing major...
Wish you could change genetics
I pretty much know im gonna have to go to higher doses to see great effects but i need to get my diet real good before i go and do that...
anyway, if you grow off deca, take deca....LOL

 

[needsize]

even on my first cycle I didnt do great on just test. I ran dbol for the first 4 weeks, and thats when I gained 90% of my total gains, the rest of the cycle on test alone I barely gained a thing. It doesnt make sense