1st CYCLE- Test E/P, Dbol, and Winny- trying to avoid rookie mistakes.

[conjons]

Ok,hopefully I posted this in the right spot. I'm rookie, so I could use some experienced critique/suggestions. Here’s what I got:

Wk1-6:
Test E. 400mg/wk
Dbol 30 mgED

Wk7-12
Test P. 400mg/wk(spread out EOD)
Stanozolol 50mgEOD

Wk4-12
Nolva 10mgED
Arimidex 1mgEOD

Wk6-12
hCG-300iu/wk(spread out EOD)
100iuED for last 10 days of cycle

PCT-Clomid 100/50/50/50, starting 3 days after last pin of Test P

Supplements: Cod oil, fish oil, multi, potassium, Ca, Vit B, glucosamine/chondroitin, milk thistle, creatine, glutamine, iron, amino acids.
I’m 32, and I’ve been training since I was 14. My regimen, diet, and sleep/rest are on point. This is my first cycle. I’m 6’2”. I started at 230 @ 20%. I start week 5 tomorrow and am 235 @ 15%. Everything is going great so far! Strength through the roof. Size going well too. Not recovering as fast as I’d like, but I am getting some gnarly workouts in. So far no sides. I thought maybe I was getting a little gyno, but my nips don’t feel any different. I may have been imagining it. Also, my BP is at the healthy end of low.
I used to work as Paramedic and now I work in clinical labs. I studied exercise science at UCDavis. I know my physio and pharmaceuticals. But due to the lame taboo of AA’s, it’s hard to come by solid clinical studies/info. And that’s IF you get past all the negative media hype! Anyways, I know I’m completely new to this and have a lot to learn. I’m here to get solid advice and knowledge. I know I’m a noob, and I’m sure I’m making at least a few stupid mistakes. All positive criticism is welcome…

Oh ya, I understand the ester and half life differences in the test.

 

[smittiot]

You have not used your arimidex yet?
I would have said that your cycle is a little complex for first cycle, but since you are 5 weeks into it...
Most would suggest you run a test E or C only for 12 weeks. AI should have been in mix from start.
Also, many here like HCG during cycle for your testicle preservation/recovery. I have no experience with hcg.

 

[conjons]

I just started the arimidex a week ago. With the long ester of Test E, I figured I might have a few weeks before a serious amount of aromitization occurred. But mainly it was a supply issue. I just couldn't get the arimidex before week 4. Supply issues is also why I am switching from E to P mid-cycle. I also like the idea of starting PCT sooner. I realize the cycle is a bit complex. I probably bit off a little more than I should of. That's exactly why I'm here. Make sure I'm not making any REALLY dangerous/stupid mistakes.

 

[EvoEvil]

Are you using this stack to cut? 6'2 @230lbs and 20% BF sounds like you need a good diet to fix the body fat. Since it sounds like you are doing a serious stack as is for your first run hopefully you can drop that and simply just try Test E (250mg/E3D) and Tren A (50-75MG/EOD) to cut down.

 

[conjons]

I think I see what you're saying about being a little too fat at the beginning of the cycle to get the most benefit from my gear. I was coming off a couple lame-ass nagging joint injuries and generally just being lazy, so yeah, I was kind of big. Currently my cardio and aerobic exercise is back on point and the fat is melting off. But I'm not really using this cycle to "cut". So far, it has been tremendously helpful in accelerating the fat loss, and I haven't even started the Winstrol yet. I'm much more concerned about just building quality muscle. BF% comes and goes, but gains are forever! Also, most conventional BF measurement methods are not reliable, so I don't really pay much attention to those %numbers. Thanks for the advice on the Tren. I would have ran that first, but I learned about Tren after I had already ordered my stuff. As far as the Tren, why do you recommend Ten-A over Tren-E?

 

[Rastas]

Thanks for the advice on the Tren. I would have ran that first, but I learned about Tren after I had already ordered my stuff. As far as the Tren, why do you recommend Ten-A over Tren-E?

Because Trenbolone Acetate is short-estered, so if you suffer from any intense sides (which you won't at low doses) you can cut it and it will clear your system quickly. It is just more popular overall. It is however a harsh compound and in my personal experience, recovery is much slower.

 

[conjons]

Thanks Rastas. What exactly do you mean when you say "you can cut it"? When you say the recovery is slower, do you mean slower than using test alone? Since Enanthate is a longer ester than Acetate, I'm guessing the recovery will be even slower on Tren E?

 

[conjons]

Oh gotcha on the "cut it" part. Did you mean that if I saw side effects, I could cut it out of the cycle and it would clear my system quickly, thus relieving the side effects?

 

[Rastas]

Oh gotcha on the "cut it" part. Did you mean that if I saw side effects, I could cut it out of the cycle and it would clear my system quickly, thus relieving the side effects?

Spot on