SolomonGrundy
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step one read all the stickies, so many answers in there
1st time user of Anavar with cycle questions
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Nothingface81
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Read the stickies again and did a lil searching...came up with this any tweaks or help would be appreciated. also again this is for cutting purposes losing bodyfat and getting leaner is my absolute main goal, so i will be on a low calorie diet also, please let me know if this seems legit.
If i did a 10 week cycle of Test E and Anavar
Week 1. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 2. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 3. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 4. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 5. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 40mg anavar
Week 6. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 40mg anavar
week 7. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 60mg Anavar tolerance depending
Week 8. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 60mg Anavar tolerance depending
Week 9. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 80mg Anavar tolerance depending
week 10. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 80mg Anavar tolerance depending
PCT starting 14-21 days after last Test injection
Novadex 40mg a day for 2 weeks then 20mg a day for 1-2 weeks
If i did a 10 week cycle of Test E and Anavar
Week 1. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 2. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 3. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 4. Test E 250mg bi-weekly
Week 5. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 40mg anavar
Week 6. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 40mg anavar
week 7. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 60mg Anavar tolerance depending
Week 8. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 60mg Anavar tolerance depending
Week 9. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 80mg Anavar tolerance depending
week 10. Test E 250mg bi-weekly 80mg Anavar tolerance depending
PCT starting 14-21 days after last Test injection
Novadex 40mg a day for 2 weeks then 20mg a day for 1-2 weeks
SolomonGrundy
Grrr...tren Good
you forgot about Aromatase inhibitor (AI) meds, from day one. go 12 weeks or longer, no need to ramp the anavar, go steady dose 6 to 8 weeks
Nothingface81
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Ok ill stay steady on the anavar and up the cycle to 12 week starting anavar at week 6...I didn't see anything about Aromatase inhibitor (AI) meds while searching and reading can you direct to what they are exactly i would appreciate it
Nothingface81
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Ok i found a thread on the AI's, very long thread and a learned a decent amount from. Only issue i have is, not sure how/when and how much to take during the cycle. Would anyone like to help me out with that, seeing the cycle im going to do, what can someone suggest for me? Thanks
halfwit
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Jeepers, I head off to class and this thread exploded!
That looks more like it, trust me - your testes will (and your woman) thank you. I would stretch it out to twelve weeks though. Enanthate kicks in at about the 4-5 week mark, so you'll want to enjoy that as long as you can! As bhrees mentioned, there is no need to pyramid up the anavar, just start off at the max dose, split into the am/pm. Be sure to pick up Taurine too, as it will help with the pumps that you'll be getting when you don't necessarily want them.
This is why test was suggested. Anavar itself will shut down your production, so adding test to the mix will keep your johnson working and give you many other benefits inherent to the hormone. Trust me, after the first few pins, you'll WANT to inject.
I'd start off at .25mg EoD and go from there. If you start to see swelling in your face or feet, get itchy nipples or start to see a LOT of acne, bump it up to .5mg EOD. Conversely, if you develop joint pain and start to feel really sluggish, you can back it down a smidgeon.
Nothingface81
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lol ya Halfwit it did kinda get rolling which is great cause you all have helped so much and i appreciate it. Im hoping this all helps with cutting fat it would so feel worth it to me and i want to do it as safe as possible and be responsible with everything. As for the "EoD" can you just help me with that since i am unsure what it is, like what is the actual name lol. Also .25mg a day through the whole cycle?
halfwit
I like turtles.
EoD = Every Other Day. Yes, you'll want to run your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at that dose up until you start your PCT. I'm just happy we can stop another guy from killing his sex life and do things right.
Nothingface81
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that was my plan, to research and learn as much as possible then actually ask you guys for advice. I want everything to be 100% correct and on point to do exactly that not ruin my sex life and health.
Can you recommend a good Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to take every other day? Also since i work and workout different times different days and will be pinning 2 times a week is there certain times in a day i should do so? Can the test and anavar be taken at the same time? EX. morning, before workout, night etc..
Can you recommend a good Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to take every other day? Also since i work and workout different times different days and will be pinning 2 times a week is there certain times in a day i should do so? Can the test and anavar be taken at the same time? EX. morning, before workout, night etc..
Nothingface81
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Oh and real fast, what is the Taurine for? Like the same taurine thats in redbull? lol
halfwit
I like turtles.
I used arimidex (liquidex) for years and recently made the change to aromasin (liquid stane) to see if I get less sleepy on it. Both work great and each have their own benefits. Adex having a longer half-life, so you can do EoD dosing while aromasin is suicidal - meaning you get zero rebound once you stop taking it. You would inject test twice a week every 3.5 days apart to maintain stable blood levels while anavar is two times daily spread 8 hours apart. They will both be in your bloodstream at the same time.
Taurine helps to reduce the unwanted pumps that can come with certain compounds like anavar, where you have excess blood in your muscles such as calves/abs/back by thinning the blood, allowing it to flow freely out of the site. It's a life saver when you're having trouble sleeping because your back is tied in knots from workout out earlier that day. Yes, many energy drinks contain taurine - it's an amino acid. I personally buy the 1000mg capsules from Jarrow Formulas for dirt cheap off amazon.
Redskins123
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A lot of great info on here! Hope your cycle goes well. Do you know where you going to get you e from? Not asking for a source, just checking.
Nothingface81
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Again halfwit really appreciate your help you have helped me a ton with my questions. I think i have all the info the do this in the manner i want AKA the right way lol. Do you think 250mg a week is enough, considering it is only my 1st cycle? I saw taurine powder on ebay pretty cheap so i'll probably pick that up once i get my Test. the 1,000mg is something you supplement daily or just when you feel the pumps? Oh and also i heard something about loading, almost like creatine, is that something you do with test or no? My plan was to inject Sunday and thursday only thing is i workout 1-2hrs afterwards is that to soon? I may be over thinking a lot here but it is my health so pardon the onslaught of what may be stupid questions.
Redskins yes i have my supplier already and it's all legit, that's another thing i absolutely made sure of. The anavar is here just waiting now on the Test E since i wasn't really expecting to be doing it until i started this post.
Redskins yes i have my supplier already and it's all legit, that's another thing i absolutely made sure of. The anavar is here just waiting now on the Test E since i wasn't really expecting to be doing it until i started this post.
SpartacusOmega
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AI's depending whether you do type 1 or 2, should be incorporated into your regiment from the beginning of your cycle.
halfwit
I like turtles.
That's 250mg x2, which is 500mg - yes. I do think that is enough for a first cycle and you will DEFINITELY see a HUGE difference after about 4 weeks.
You want to take it daily to build up in your bloodstream. Just be sure to keep an eye on blood pressure as it can cause a slight decrease, which is often countered by the increase from the test/estrogen, but better to be on top of things in my opinion.
Some guys swear by frontloading, but I don't see how that helps as it would cause a spike in test, which would cause a spike in estrogen. You CAN frontload if you want to, which is usually twice the amount of your cycle dose for the first week, but I would stay away from that for now since it's your first cycle. A gram of test to a newbie is a crazy amount and if you have any sides, I'd rather you get them from 500mg, not 1g. I prefer to pin first thing in the morning since I still get a slight endorphin rush from pinning and it helps me to start my day off with a smile.
You're in for one hell of a treat my man. Just remember that the biggest cause of post-injection pain (imo) is from shaky hands when pinning the first few times. Take your time, relax and before you know it that pin is empty and you're up and on your way.
Nothingface81
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Halfwit are you able to send me a PM i tried to send you one but it won't let me, i would appreciate it. thanks
Hey bud, you can't send PM's with under 50 posts. So get postin.
500mg a week Test C or E is perfect. I front loaded for a few weeks and got some bad acne. Tried this cycle for 3 injections double dose and only got a few acne spots on my stomach. Due to 4-5 week kick in time, some do the front load to combat that and get gains sooner. Your call really but it won't hurt if you don't do it too long.
Aromasin (Exemestane) @ Lion Logo above is good, like stated above also there will be no rebound like with other AI's. Meaning your Estro won't skyrocket due to not taking in any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when you stop to do your PCT. I use 12.5mg a day, some say 12.5 Every Other Day but try it EOD and see how you feel, up it from there.
Clomid on cycle will help too with nut shrinkage, 25mg a day is a good dose.
As far as pinning and first time jitters. I sat on a few test bottles for 2 years before I said fuck it, its about to expire so I just pinned it and learned from there. I hate pinning but its become second nature on just my second cycle. I pin in my quads, back right portion of right quad and back left portion of left quad. I pin with 27g 1.25" needles, about half way in. 27's will take a few seconds to push in and you'll have to push hard but there is NO pain from injecting. Steady hands, relax and push in slowly, alternate pin sites and ASPIRATE, after pinning, pull back on the plunger a hair and if no blood then push away. You can do 25g too, just depends on what is comfortable for you.
Test with Ana Anavar (var) is a good combo, you're doing it right by combining the two. No ramping dosage like stated above too. If you can get some HCG, that will work on cycle or blast at end of cycle for 10 days, then 4 days later you start your PCT.
Depends on your Ana Anavar (var) follow dosing posted earlier. I think if I were to do it again, I'd Anavar (var) for the first 5 weeks, 5 weeks off then Anavar (var) for the last 5 weeks, 15 week cycle. You'd have a kick start, cruise then finish it off at the end.
I lost a lot of fat with a Diet from 3J, board member here and a Test Only cycle. He goes by measurements so you can track your gains. It sounds like that would be in your best interest too, wouldn't hurt to have someone looking over your shoulder to say yay or nay.
Good luck and good job on the work done so far.
500mg a week Test C or E is perfect. I front loaded for a few weeks and got some bad acne. Tried this cycle for 3 injections double dose and only got a few acne spots on my stomach. Due to 4-5 week kick in time, some do the front load to combat that and get gains sooner. Your call really but it won't hurt if you don't do it too long.
Aromasin (Exemestane) @ Lion Logo above is good, like stated above also there will be no rebound like with other AI's. Meaning your Estro won't skyrocket due to not taking in any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when you stop to do your PCT. I use 12.5mg a day, some say 12.5 Every Other Day but try it EOD and see how you feel, up it from there.
Clomid on cycle will help too with nut shrinkage, 25mg a day is a good dose.
As far as pinning and first time jitters. I sat on a few test bottles for 2 years before I said fuck it, its about to expire so I just pinned it and learned from there. I hate pinning but its become second nature on just my second cycle. I pin in my quads, back right portion of right quad and back left portion of left quad. I pin with 27g 1.25" needles, about half way in. 27's will take a few seconds to push in and you'll have to push hard but there is NO pain from injecting. Steady hands, relax and push in slowly, alternate pin sites and ASPIRATE, after pinning, pull back on the plunger a hair and if no blood then push away. You can do 25g too, just depends on what is comfortable for you.
Test with Ana Anavar (var) is a good combo, you're doing it right by combining the two. No ramping dosage like stated above too. If you can get some HCG, that will work on cycle or blast at end of cycle for 10 days, then 4 days later you start your PCT.
Depends on your Ana Anavar (var) follow dosing posted earlier. I think if I were to do it again, I'd Anavar (var) for the first 5 weeks, 5 weeks off then Anavar (var) for the last 5 weeks, 15 week cycle. You'd have a kick start, cruise then finish it off at the end.
I lost a lot of fat with a Diet from 3J, board member here and a Test Only cycle. He goes by measurements so you can track your gains. It sounds like that would be in your best interest too, wouldn't hurt to have someone looking over your shoulder to say yay or nay.
Good luck and good job on the work done so far.
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