2 six week cycles vs. 1 twelve week cycle

[iwillsucceed]

Say you ran a 6 week cycle of test prop. finish with a proper 4 week post cycle therapy (pct). wait 10 weeks then do it again.
Would that be better than running a 12 week test e cycle and finishing with a proper 4 week PCT?
Thought this seemed pretty interesting!! What would be the pros and cons? Thankyou for answering

 

[J_Fox23]

Cons not long enough to get good gains. I really don't see any pros in this.

 

[Kazmir]

I guess it would totally be dependent on your goal, are you talking about a cut cycle, contest prep, or a bulking phase. There would be a use for both ways of running gear. And also comes down to a personal prefference and knowing how your body reacts to the hormones you are injecting.

 

[frank.tb]

Pros- ?

Cons, cycles don't rly show noticeable changes till 3 to 4 weeks, waste of money considering you are buying double the pct, and ruining your test levels in a short burst to just ruin them again shortly after isn't worth the risk of AAS (only advisable for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients to do short bursts)

 

[iwillsucceed]

I guess it would totally be dependent on your goal, are you talking about a cut cycle, contest prep, or a bulking phase. There would be a use for both ways of running gear. And also comes down to a personal prefference and knowing how your body reacts to the hormones you are injecting.

Pros- ?

Cons, cycles don't rly show noticeable changes till 3 to 4 weeks, waste of money considering you are buying double the pct, and ruining your test levels in a short burst to just ruin them again shortly after isn't worth the risk of AAS (only advisable for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients to do short bursts)

i guess its with the belief of reducing side effects?:/ anything to stay a little safer

 

[DreDay187]

i guess its with the belief of reducing side effects?:/ anything to stay a little safer

That is not solely dependent on cycle length. If you want to cycle safer I suggest you read Austinite's thread about how to construct a first cycle and do so safely. Get blood work, get necessary ancillaries and PCT compounds, and stick to a plan.

 

[frank.tb]

i guess its with the belief of reducing side effects?:/ anything to stay a little safer

Kind of...but the main arguement is that you will see better gains and progress with one 12 week cycle vs the 2 six week cycles...
And playing with your test levels back to back in short bursts would probably take a toll on you...

But in all why waste time and money on a "double cycle" that will get you less results?

 

[iwillsucceed]

That is not solely dependent on cycle length. If you want to cycle safer I suggest you read Austinite's thread about how to construct a first cycle and do so safely. Get blood work, get necessary ancillaries and PCT compounds, and stick to a plan.

oh i have a cycle written down. thankyou though

Kind of...but the main arguement is that you will see better gains and progress with one 12 week cycle vs the 2 six week cycles...
And playing with your test levels back to back in short bursts would probably take a toll on you...

But in all why waste time and money on a "double cycle" that will get you less results?

not to worried about the money part, im willing to spend whatever to get proper/safe gear and if two, 6 week cycles would cause less sides, that would definetely be a better option to me

 

[frank.tb]

oh i have a cycle written down. every ready. thankyou though


not to worried about the money part, im willing to spend whatever to get proper/safe gear and if two, 6 week cycles would cause less sides, that would definetely be a better option to me

When you say you have one written down, are you planning to cycle soon?
Aren't you like 19 or something?

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Honestly, I would run 6 weeks on short esters, cruise for 4-5 then again for 6 and PCT this will be more effective than one long cycle, and myostatin levels will stay on the lower end, ensuring constant growth.

 

[iwillsucceed]

When you say you have one written down, are you planning to cycle soon?
Aren't you like 19 or something?

yes i have a great beginning cycle written down. over the years i will be changing it due to new information i learn. i will run it in a couple of years

Honestly, I would run 6 weeks on short esters, cruise for 4-5 then again for 6 and PCT this will be more effective than one long cycle, and myostatin levels will stay on the lower end, ensuring constant growth.

this is my thinking. waiting to see other peoples thought on the subject. thanks tho man

 

[frank.tb]

Honestly, I would run 6 weeks on short esters, cruise for 4-5 then again for 6 and PCT this will be more effective than one long cycle, and myostatin levels will stay on the lower end, ensuring constant growth.

Example please? With compounds dosages weeks etc...
I'm confused on what you are suggesting.

 

[jSalud]

Honestly, I would run 6 weeks on short esters, cruise for 4-5 then again for 6 and PCT this will be more effective than one long cycle, and myostatin levels will stay on the lower end, ensuring constant growth.

That seems to be the norm with a lot of experienced guys. Not sure if it is advisable for a newbie.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Here is the article I wrote about this Method. Yes it is more advisable for experience users, BUT in moderation I believe even a relatively new user with a couple under their belt could handle it.

Example of a cycle would be

1-Last week of second Cycle - 250mg/wk Test E
1-6 Test Prop 75mg/ed
1-6 NPP 150mg/ Mon/Wed/Fri
1-6 Dbol 30mg/ed

continue your Cruise 4-5 weeks

1-6 Test Prop 100mg/eod or 50mg/ed
1-6 Tren Ace 50mg/ed or 100/eod
1-6 50mg/ed winstrol
1-6 Proviron 50mg/ed

post cycle therapy (pct) week 8 for long ester test to clear.

Of course Aromasin or adex should be run at 25mg/ed or adex .5mg eod
Caber .5mg Twice Weekly if using a 19nor.

Here is the write up I did. http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...g-power-approach-success-oldschoollifter.html

Myostatin levels start to really rise around week 8 and start climbing from there, hence while some will stall out, or increase the dose to counter it. You can negate this buy running short esters in 6 week intervals, followed by a rest to get lipids, and myostatin levels if they did rise slightly to decrease, then blast again for another 6 weeks. and post cycle therapy (pct) or Cruise for a period before starting the protocol again. I have found this method to be very effective in my growth lately.

 

[frank.tb]

Here is the article I wrote about this Method. Yes it is more advisable for experience users, BUT in moderation I believe even a relatively new user with a couple under their belt could handle it.

Example of a cycle would be

1-Last week of second Cycle - 250mg/wk Test E
1-6 Test Prop 75mg/ed
1-6 NPP 150mg/ Mon/Wed/Fri
1-6 Dbol 30mg/ed

continue your Cruise 4-5 weeks

1-6 Test Prop 100mg/eod or 50mg/ed
1-6 Tren Ace 50mg/ed or 100/eod
1-6 50mg/ed winstrol
1-6 Proviron 50mg/ed

post cycle therapy (pct) week 8 for long ester test to clear.

Of course Aromasin or adex should be run at 25mg/ed or adex .5mg eod
Caber .5mg Twice Weekly if using a 19nor.

Here is the write up I did. http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...g-power-approach-success-oldschoollifter.html

Myostatin levels start to really rise around week 8 and start climbing from there, hence while some will stall out, or increase the dose to counter it. You can negate this buy running short esters in 6 week intervals, followed by a rest to get lipids, and myostatin levels if they did rise slightly to decrease, then blast again for another 6 weeks. and post cycle therapy (pct) or Cruise for a period before starting the protocol again. I have found this method to be very effective in my growth lately.

Ahh I see what you are saying...technically it's still once cycle because you post cycle therapy (pct) once...
Still he would be cycling test for an extended period of time so he's still doing a 12+ week cycle but blasting with different compounds.
Except for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients, they have to cruise year round.
But ok that makes sense brother...
According to this guy he's.not cycling yet, an in my opinion if or when he does he just needs to stick to a basic cycle of test, no blasts...

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Ahh I see what you are saying...technically it's still once cycle because you post cycle therapy (pct) once...
Still he would be cycling test for an extended period of time so he's still doing a 12+ week cycle but blasting with different compounds.
Except for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients, they have to cruise year round.
But ok that makes sense brother...
According to this guy he's.not cycling yet, an in my opinion if or when he does he just needs to stick to a basic cycle of test, no blasts...

Yes essentially its 1 cycle but broken into 2 parts with the low dosed test in the middle, myostatin levels during your cruise will lower, priming your for the next.

If this his his first cycle, a simple test only, or Test and Dbol cycle, with a nice Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and good post cycle therapy (pct) will be great for him.

For others who have cycled for a while, and have run some long cycles with a bulk type in the first half and cut type for the last half, this is ideal because your keeping myostatin levels low. Ensuring gains dont stall.

Normally, a 12-15 weeks cycle, will require either a cruise of low test for 12-17 weeks, or post cycle therapy (pct) and off for 12-17 weeks for myostatin levels to reach baseline again. This method negates that wait time.

 

[frank.tb]

Yes essentially its 1 cycle but broken into 2 parts with the low dosed test in the middle, myostatin levels during your cruise will lower, priming your for the next.

If this his his first cycle, a simple test only, or Test and Dbol cycle, with a nice Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and good post cycle therapy (pct) will be great for him.

For others who have cycled for a while, and have run some long cycles with a bulk type in the first half and cut type for the last half, this is ideal because your keeping myostatin levels low. Ensuring gains dont stall.

Normally, a 12-15 weeks cycle, will require either a cruise of low test for 12-17 weeks, or post cycle therapy (pct) and off for 12-17 weeks for myostatin levels to reach baseline again. This method negates that wait time.

I see what your saying...
Well he claims he's not going to cycle. Said he's going to wait a few years.
Even though I didn't start the thread, thanks for your input, very informative.

 

[sadpanda]

the longer one if you plan on cycling vs blasting and crusing

Starting up your HTPA and then shutting it down again constantly is harder to recover from then staying shut down for longer, but giving it a longer break in between


that is just my opinion

 

[iwillsucceed]

the longer one if you plan on cycling vs blasting and crusing

Starting up your HTPA and then shutting it down again constantly is harder to recover from then staying shut down for longer, but giving it a longer break in between


that is just my opinion

really? i would think a short cycle followed by a recovery period. and another short cycle followed by another recovery period would be a lot healthier than a longer period of shutdown. thanks tho bro

 

[frank.tb]

the longer one if you plan on cycling vs blasting and crusing

Starting up your HTPA and then shutting it down again constantly is harder to recover from then staying shut down for longer, but giving it a longer break in between


that is just my opinion

I agree completely...I say try to stay away from blasting and cruising as long as possible.
Being married to the needle isnt as great as some think from what I'm told.

And iwillsucceed...if you haven't picked up on what blasting and cruising is, it's for testosterone replacement patients (trt)...those who make little to no natural testosterone and rely on injections to get their testosterone. You cruise with testosterone and blasting is when you throw in another compound for how ever many weeks such as deca, tren, primo, var, etc...just to clarify lol