20,000iu's

[Alert/10]

I have (10) 2000iu vials of HCG (20,000iu's)

What would be the best way to make use of this for my cycle?

Running the basic first cycle test E for 12 weeks @ 500mg


I was thinking 250iu 2x week 3-12 followed by a blast of 10 - 1500iu injections EOD?

Since I would be doing 250iu 2x a week on cycle would I stop use after last Test injection and then do the blast 10 days later and then Serm immediately after?

The would mean I wouldnt start my serm until 30 days after the last test injection.

 

[Babyrage32]

I have (10) 2000iu vials of HCG (20,000iu's)

What would be the best way to make use of this for my cycle?

Running the basic first cycle test E for 12 weeks @ 500mg


I was thinking 250iu 2x week 3-12 followed by a blast of 10 - 1500iu injections EOD?

Since I would be doing 250iu 2x a week on cycle would I stop use after last Test injection and then do the blast 10 days later and then Serm immediately after?

The would mean I wouldnt start my serm until 30 days after the last test injection.

Research bro. No need for shots that big

 

[grind4it]

250 iu 2X a week is plenty. Drop the blast.

 

[cashout]

Read through this thread...


http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/618782-more-more-failed-pcts.html#post2990388

 

[Dbol7]

You would start the SERMS 14 days after the last Test E injection.
Your "blast" is too much, 500ui ED is max, even that is a lot, but can be done.

Few things to take into consideration:

HCG can cause gyno, I would be using Nolva, some people do fine without though.
Also when you mix a 2000ui vial, which you are going to use up with 250ui injections over the course of several weeks, be sure to use bacteria static water and NOT NaCl aka sodium chloride.

 

[BodybuilderX]

Alert, if this is your first cycle and your only using test E. try cruising with HCG 500iu 2x week. The blast might not be necessary. However, get blood work done in between your cycle as well as after post cycle therapy (pct) to see where your levels are at and if an HCG blast might have been beneficial

 

[Alert/10]

sounds good thanks for the advice guys, and cashout I have been reading that thread which is the reason I was looking at a blast so high

Also I will be using nolva as well as bac water not sodium chloride, heard that it lasts longer that way

You would start the SERMS 14 days after the last Test E injection.
Your "blast" is too much, 500ui ED is max, even that is a lot, but can be done.
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Yes that was my plan, then I read the failed PCT's thread and it said to wait to do a blast roughly 10 days after test E

Seems like everyone here is saying to drop the blast entirely?

So what about 250iu 2x a week to start and upping to 500iu 2x a week if there is still a large amount of shrinkage. Stop HCG the same time as test E, then SERM treatment 14 days after?

Zero blast whatsoever? I'd rather give myself the best chance of recovery then just skip out on something because "it might not be needed" No hate on any of your responses just wanting to learn the reasons.

 

[Dbol7]

sounds good thanks for the advice guys, and cashout I have been reading that thread which is the reason I was looking at a blast so high

Also I will be using nolva as well as bac water not sodium chloride, heard that it lasts longer that way


Yes that was my plan, then I read the failed PCT's thread and it said to wait to do a blast roughly 10 days after test E

Seems like everyone here is saying to drop the blast entirely?

So what about 250iu 2x a week to start and upping to 500iu 2x a week if there is still a large amount of shrinkage. Stop HCG the same time as test E, then SERM treatment 14 days after?

Zero blast whatsoever? I'd rather give myself the best chance of recovery then just skip out on something because "it might not be needed" No hate on any of your responses just wanting to learn the reasons.

I myself like and use the blast, I never said to drop it. Just not @ 1000ui, that is too excessive. Everything else you laid out seems fine. I also rather overkill the HCG and SERMs for the same reasons you have given.
But do some research about HCG shutting you down further, its something that can happen with it if over used.

 

[cashout]

sounds good thanks for the advice guys, and cashout I have been reading that thread which is the reason I was looking at a blast so high

Also I will be using nolva as well as bac water not sodium chloride, heard that it lasts longer that way


Yes that was my plan, then I read the failed PCT's thread and it said to wait to do a blast roughly 10 days after test E

Seems like everyone here is saying to drop the blast entirely?

So what about 250iu 2x a week to start and upping to 500iu 2x a week if there is still a large amount of shrinkage. Stop HCG the same time as test E, then SERM treatment 14 days after?

Zero blast whatsoever? I'd rather give myself the best chance of recovery then just skip out on something because "it might not be needed" No hate on any of your responses just wanting to learn the reasons.

I wish more people would think like this...we would have far fewer failed PCTs around here...keep on keeping on you are approaching this the right way.

 

[Alert/10]

Alright I will definitely research more about HCG dosage, did not know it could shut you down further

Cashout, whats your opinion on HCG for the beginner test E cycle?

Blast wise anyways, I know you dont fully think on cycle is absolutely necessary

does 500iu ED blast for 10 injections sound good, and is this on the "high" side as others have mentioned?

 

[cashout]

Alright I will definitely research more about HCG dosage, did not know it could shut you down further

Cashout, whats your opinion on HCG for the beginner test E cycle?

Blast wise anyways, I know you dont fully think on cycle is absolutely necessary

does 500iu ED blast for 10 injections sound good, and is this on the "high" side as others have mentioned?

1500-2000 iu EOD starting 14 days after your last shot assuming 500 mg test e cycle. 10 shots spans about 20 days then SERMS Clomid/Nolva. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) run throughout post cycle therapy (pct) to control estrogen....as detailed in my post cycle therapy (pct) thread.

1500-2000 for 10 shots EOD has never been demonstrated to shut anyone down when they are already shut down from their cycle.

On cycle HCG is fine, I'm not opposed to it. I just see too many guys getting a false sense of security from it and fooling themselves into doing s post cycle therapy (pct) Lite and not actually recovering.

 

[Alert/10]

1500-2000 iu EOD starting 14 days after your last shot assuming 500 mg test e cycle. 10 shots spans about 20 days then SERMS Clomid/Nolva. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) run throughout post cycle therapy (pct) to control estrogen....as detailed in my post cycle therapy (pct) thread.

1500-2000 for 10 shots EOD has never been demonstrated to shut anyone down when they are already shut down from their cycle.

On cycle HCG is fine, I'm not opposed to it. I just see too many guys getting a false sense of security from it and fooling themselves into doing s post cycle therapy (pct) Lite and not actually recovering.

Thanks for the quick reply

So I guess I read your thread correctly then, what I put in the OP follows that exactly.

So then I guess my only question would be the one left from the OP, do I wait until my levels are down (calculated using the half life of test E) to start the blast or right after the last Test E injection? I've seen both been said.

 

[cashout]

Thanks for the quick reply

So I guess I read your thread correctly then, what I put in the OP follows that exactly.

So then I guess my only question would be the one left from the OP, do I wait until my levels are down (calculated using the half life of test E) to start the blast or right after the last Test E injection? I've seen both been said.

Wait 14 days after last shot assuming you are running 500 mgs of test e.

Then blast. When that is finished then SERMS.

 

[Alert/10]

Wait 14 days after last shot assuming you are running 500 mgs of test e.

Then blast. When that is finished then SERMS.

ty sir, i have that feeling I used to have in college whenever I wasnt sure how I did on an exam, then I would get it back and I got an A

 

[BodybuilderX]

Cash knows what he's taking about 25+ years of experience with added AAS experience. I'd go with the blast along with continued Aromatase inhibitor (AI), possible increase in Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage until blast is over.

 

[Alert/10]

Cash knows what he's taking about 25+ years of experience with added AAS experience. I'd go with the blast along with continued Aromatase inhibitor (AI), possible increase in Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage until blast is over.

Yea I've noticed he he seems to know what he's talkin about, glad to have him respond to my post.