2nd Cycle help/advice

[PNW55]

I've been doing research for a few weeks and am trying to shape my next cycle which I hope to start in the next week or two. Stats are 26, 5"11, 173 lbs and 11.5% BF. Here is what I am thinking. Already have all the Anavar (var) I need and can get the sust/test e and win tabs whenever. I was initially going to run mast instead of win tabs but I travel a lot and pinning EOD is an issue for me, so this is what I came up with. I have no intentions in making serious mass gains and am looking to end up at around 180 and drop BF to about 7 - 8%. Started eating clean about a month ago and will really get dialed in here the few weeks before I start. Will be doing a modified carb diet and eating plenty of protein.

Weeks 1 - 12 : Sust250 or Test E @ 250mg (Monday/Thursday) and 500mg 1/week on long travel (will only happen 2 time max throughout this cyle)

Weeks 1-6 : Win tabs @ 50mg/ed (maybe start with 25md/day for first 2 weeks?)

Weeks 7 - 14 : Anavar (var) @ 50mg/ed

Run Anavar (var) for 2 weeks after last test shot and start PCT few days after last Anavar (var) dose.
I have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand and pct will be Nolva/Clomid. I also have enough HcG to run whole cycle @ 250iu 2x a week.
From what I understand I should be taking Liv52/Milk thistle through whole cycle to help liver. Are those two best? Or is there something els out there that will better help keep liver function up. What about HDL/LDL levels, what do I need to sup to keep those as good as possible? Money is of no issue so all suggestions are welcome.

Also, do you think HcG is needed in this cycle? I don't want shriveled nuts... If so, when should my last injection be? Do you guys recommend test e or sus250 in this stack? And should I switch the way I am runnig the orals? Anavar (var) first, win last? Any advice/help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

[PNW55]

Also, If I could make it work, Would test prop/mast/var be a much improved cycle for my goals? Or will the results be fairly similar.

Thanks

 

[DADAWG]

stop and start over , if you think 14 weeks straight of orals is a good cycle cycle you are NOT ready for steroids.

 

[DragunX5]

stop and start over , if you think 14 weeks straight of orals is a good cycle cycle you are NOT ready for steroids.

Agreed, I think for your 2nd cycle drop the Anavar (var) or Winstrol (winny), but if you keep Winstrol (winny) in I wouldn't take the tabs I would pin. Unnecessary stress on liver dude.

But listen to the mod dude. Start again, research again and see what you conclude.
As for pct on those dosges, clomid and nolva would suffice IMO,

 

[PNW55]

stop and start over , if you think 14 weeks straight of orals is a good cycle cycle you are NOT ready for steroids.

I understand thats not desireable.. Anavar (var) is not a-17 so it's much less toxic on the liver. So I thought this might be ok. Would I be better off just running both win/ Anavar (var) at 50/g ed for last 6 weeks of cycle?

 

[DADAWG]

I understand thats not desireable.. Anavar (var) is not a-17 so it's much less toxic on the liver. So I thought this might be ok. Would I be better off just running both win/ Anavar (var) at 50/g ed for last 6 weeks of cycle?

what makes you think Anavar (var) isnt a 17a steroid? ---- 17***946;-hydroxy-17***945;-methyl-2-oxa-5***945;-androstan-3

you need to learn more about steroids because your knowledge is poor , this shit isnt anything to play with , knowledge is power.

also at 170 pounds you need food and training , not steroids.

 

[Shovel]

Sick em Dawg, lol
Always a straight shooter.

Pnw55, post up your HONEST daily diet and we can help tweak it...

 

[PNW55]

what makes you think Anavar (var) isnt a 17a steroid? ---- 17***946;-hydroxy-17***945;-methyl-2-oxa-5***945;-androstan-3

you need to learn more about steroids because your knowledge is poor , this shit isnt anything to play with , knowledge is power.

also at 170 pounds you need food and training , not steroids.

I know I am not at genetic potential but am going to run a cycle to help my cut either way... Sorry being such a noon.. This is why I am asking for the advice. If I was going to the run injectable win in this cycle instead of tabs. What should the dosage be and at what point in the cycle should I run it? Can win be ran twice or once a week or is it EOD?

 

[DADAWG]

I know I am not at genetic potential but am going to run a cycle to help my cut either way... Sorry being such a noon.. This is why I am asking for the advice. If I was going to the run injectable win in this cycle instead of tabs. What should the dosage be and at what point in the cycle should I run it? Can win be ran twice or once a week or is it EOD?

winnie doesnt cut you up it dries you out and when you stop the winnie the water comes back.

90% of the benefit of steroids in a cutter is to maintain lean mass while your dropping fat at 170 pounds you dont have enough lean mass to worry about .

you REALLY REALLY need to get your diet and training down pat . then and only then run a moderate dose cyclle and focus on adding lean mass , if you add 10 pounds of lean mass your actual bodyfat % will go down.

 

[PNW55]

winnie doesnt cut you up it dries you out and when you stop the winnie the water comes back.

90% of the benefit of steroids in a cutter is to maintain lean mass while your dropping fat at 170 pounds you dont have enough lean mass to worry about .

you REALLY REALLY need to get your diet and training down pat . then and only then run a moderate dose cyclle and focus on adding lean mass , if you add 10 pounds of lean mass your actual bodyfat % will go down.

Thanks for the help! I will work on my diet and will most likely hold off for a while and prob just run test e and var.