2nd cycle - Test e. / Dbol / (Deca) ?

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eliehabib9

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Hey everyone ,

Im planning on doing a 2nd cycle on september so im preparing a bit early . I had my first cycle last year , everything went well and came back to normal now (Blood test) . I only had a small libido problem though right after i had finished my pct , and it took about 3 months to get back to normal .

My 1st cycle was :
1-10 : Test e. 500mg
1-4 : Dbol 30mg
Arimidex : 0.5mg EOD

PCT :
Clomid + Nolva : 100/100/50/50 - 40/40/20/20

The 2nd cycle i plan on doing on september is :

1-12 : Test e. 500mg/EW
1-10 : deca durabolin 200mg/EW ???
1-4 : dbol 30mg/ED
3-12 : HCG 500iu/EW
13-14 : HCG 1000iu/EW

15-18 PCT :
Nolva : 40/40/20/20

Im still not sure about wether to include deca in it or something else . This is why i come for help !

Note :

* Im not going to use clomid this time , since i experienced some bad psychologic effects while on it on my first cycle .

* I think that i encountered some libido problems back then due to something that has to do with clomid and arimidex .

Looking forward to getting some help from the pros and experienced lifters over here .

Cheers !!
 
1st cycle is ok, dbol can be 6 weeks but ok

i am not a fan of going off and pct-ing, this is noobies work but ok

2nd cycle: deca can be higher, 200mg per week is a baby dose
 
i would go body weight x 2 for a weekly deca dose.but i would use npp as well.and if you go decca it should be 3 weeks between last shot and pct.nandralone is floating around in your system for a hot minute.it really shuts u down.and do not forget some caber or prami.that will help your libido,and progestin.



here is a breakfast of champions pct plate

nova 40/40/20/20/20
clomid 100/75/50/50/50
 
Nice advice man ! I never researched about NPP until now , didnt even know what it was . So basically by what i understood , its like a fast acting deca , kicks in and goes out of the system pretty fast . Am i correct ? Would you recommend another molecule instead of deca for a 2nd cycle though ?

Excuse my ignorance , but what is caber and prami ? I live in france (eventhough im not french) but those ph*ggots dont know sh*t about bodybuilding and juicing so some terms may seem completely new to me . This is why i do all my research in english now and prefer asking people like you and coming to forums like that for advice :angel2:
 
well i am about to run some test and npp and dbol with some anadrol.npp needs to be pined eod or e3d.i was going to pin it m,w,f .i weigh 210 so i am going to run my npp at 450 mg a week and my test e at 600 mg a week.weeks 1-3 dbol 50 mg ed and weeks 3-6 anadrol 50 mg ed.i am trying to put on some mass.i am also going to take a ai,aromasin 25 mg ed and caber e3d .25 mg.caber prevents your progesterone from getting out of control.it will make your nipps lactate.yes every steroid has a cache,19 nors have no estrogen,but they raise progesterone.meaning no libido as well.the caber or prami well help with that too.just type in one or the other,but prami helps you sleep if you take it before bed.i always type something like prami dosing for deca cycle.and bam there is all the facts and opinions on someones post.if it was not for these forums i would be lost too.
oh yeah i only run hcg 2 x a weeks at 250 iu and stop right before pct.i pin it intramuscular mixed in with my test.
 
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eliehabib9 said:
So you just blast and cruise ? lol

What does would you recommend ? like 400mg ?
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I wouldn't take bustinass' advice. He has no reputation and has a red square under his name for a reason, his advice can lead to people getting hurt.
By blasting and cruising you're reducing your chances that you'll recover eventually, either that or you'll be on TRT.

If you don't want to inject for the rest of your life, cycle.

Short cycles are also better than long in that regard.
 
Onk said:
I wouldn't take bustinass' advice. He has no reputation and has a red square under his name for a reason, his advice can lead to people getting hurt.
By blasting and cruising you're reducing your chances that you'll recover eventually, either that or you'll be on TRT.

If you don't want to inject for the rest of your life, cycle.

Short cycles are also better than long in that regard.
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th reason for req squres is not because my advice isnt good, its rock solid, its because i speak the truth and dont lick anybodies balls, so people object to that, like a new chef in town sorting people out, ofcourse the twinks that liked the old boss aint gonna like that because they know they are out on their asses by me the new boss. so the red squares are explained to you now

and my reputation is ROCK solid, top mod on several board which you cant even get in, coaching for years, looking superb myself and have my own board. doesnt get better then that broski
 
Thats a nice cycle man !

So i can choose between caber and prami ? Or should i use both together ?

Im surely going to use HCG this time . Am i correct to start using it at week 3 (when using long esters) ? Im going to be running 500iu/week too .

What is your pct going to look like for that test e./npp/dbol/anadrol cycle ?
 
eliehabib9 said:
Thats a nice cycle man !

So i can choose between caber and prami ? Or should i use both together ?

Im surely going to use HCG this time . Am i correct to start using it at week 3 (when using long esters) ? Im going to be running 500iu/week too .

What is your pct going to look like for that test e./npp/dbol/anadrol cycle ?
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You surpress natural production of test right away so use HCG from week 1.

Use caber or prami.

I would use it ONLY if you have prolactin issues, so have it on hand but you don't HAVE to use it the whole time. Some do but prolactin is usually an issue if estrogen isn't regulated properly.
Therefore if your AI is used properly, there may be no need for the prami/caber
 
Many thanks man ! Great info right there .

If i were to go get some blood tests , what would you recommend i get cheked ? for before , during and after cycle

I had libido problems after my first test e and dbol cycle , and took some time to get back to normal , but i dont know if its related to prolactin
 
Alright guys , i made my final decision . Im going to remove the deca since i want to minimise the risk of getting side effects . Let me know what you all think :

Cycle :
1-14 : Test c. / 500mg EW
1-14 : EQ / 500mg EW
1-4 : Dbol / 40mg ED

1-14 : Arimidex 0.25mg EOD (Depending on the blood test)
3-17 : HCG 500 IUs EW

PCT :
18-19 : Nolvadex 40mg ED
20-21 : Nolvadex 20mg ED

I might be getting 3x premixed vials of Test c. and boldenone undecylenate .

Thoughts ?
 
better. I'd run the test at least a week longer than the EQ. Bold is usually in a different ester and has a longer halflife. Give it an extra week of test and then allow 3 weeks before PCT, not 4. I suppose you can get away with the 4 week wait...but it should be gone by the end of the third.
 
Problem is if they're already premixed im not going to be able to run the test a week more .

But PCT is already 3 weeks after last pin , assuming last pin will be on thursday of the 14th week , then week 15/16/17 off , then monday of 18th week PCT
 
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