A Well-Informed Noob with Questions

[HollaBack]

Hey everyone. Long-time reader and first time poster here. I am about to run my first true cycle. Ive run a few different mild oral prohormones before, but this will be the first run with the real thing. I am pretty well informed, and have done tons of research on the matter. I work at a large supplement retailer, and my knowledge of workout supplements is fairly in depth. Through the countless hours of research, I know that I plan on running the following cycle, but have a couple questions to ensure that I have a well-covered setup.

I am 25 years old, 6'3 190lbs. Ive been weightlifting for a few years now, and worked at a gym for 2 years to where I lifted 5-6 days a week consistently. I am just finishing up battling back from an injury, and am getting my natural gains back to where they are beginning to plateau to my normal genetic levels. Seems like no greater time to start some "additional help"

Anyways, onto the planned cycle:
Weeks 1-4 Dianabol (oral) at 30mg a day (3 doses of 10mg)
Weeks 1-10 Test Enanthate (250mg twice a week, 3.5 day doses)
Weeks 3-10 HCG (250iu twice a week, pin same times as Test E)

Here is my main question: Due to the above cycle, and wanting to keep estrogen related sides to a minimum (i had a small bout with gyno a year ago on an oral, never got any firm lumps, but definitely tenderness that lingered for a few months) I would like to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle. However, if I run sayyyy Arimidex at .25 or .5 EOD, I'm not sure what changes I should make to my post cycle therapy (pct). Ive heard negative things about running the same Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERM during cycle as post cycle therapy (pct) because the body has adapted (not sure how true this is though.)

For example, if I ran .5 arimidex EOD on cycle, should my post cycle therapy (pct) be something like:
40/40/20/20 nolva for 4 weeks
100/50/50/50 clomid for 4 weeks
and then no AI? Or should i run Aromasin with this, or instead of either the nolva or clomid? Any suggestions on a natural test booster to run alongside these as well?

Any help would be greatly appreciated fellas, sorry for the fairly long post haha

 

[OmegaReign]

Nice job on the homework bro. Run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) all the way through post cycle therapy (pct). Also do an HCG blast phase. After your last pin of test run the HCG @ 500iu ED for 10 days, then start pct 4 days later.

IMO natty test boosters are a waste. Doing the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), clomid and nolva will get your test back to normal better than any OTC test booster. Log it when you start, eat big.

Also, I wouldn't do the dbol first cycle, but up to you. 30mg is a light dose.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Agreed ^^^

Nice homework Hollaback, this is the best first post I have ever seen. About running your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) through pct.... some people like it, some don't. We all agree that the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose should be cut in 1/2 for pct though so if your on .5mg EoD drop to .25 EoD during post cycle therapy (pct). Some will tell you not to take it at all.

Your 1st time around I would run it through since you already have gyno sensitivity. If you feel like crap, next cycle don't run it through post cycle therapy (pct). This is why a test onnly cycle is best for cycle #1.... its like an experiment.

 

[HollaBack]

Nice job on the homework bro. Run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) all the way through post cycle therapy (pct). Also do an HCG blast phase. After your last pin of test run the HCG @ 500iu ED for 10 days, then start pct 4 days later.

IMO natty test boosters are a waste. Doing the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), clomid and nolva will get your test back to normal better than any OTC test booster. Log it when you start, eat big.

Also, I wouldn't do the dbol first cycle, but up to you. 30mg is a light dose.

Thanks for the response man! Im considering doing the HCG as a blast as well. Some interesting literature I read talked about the significance of keeping at least some LH being produced on cycle, due to the fact that 10 weeks of synthetic test shuts down the LH production so much that its harder for the testes to fully recover. That would at least be the reason for running it on cycle twice a week. Im still torn between doing it that way and blasting though.

As far as DBol is concerned: Yes, the general concensus for first cycles is running just test, that way if any problems arise it's easier to pinpoint what is causing it, and its just an easier transition on the body. I have always had good results with orals (not to say that this means I will ALWAYS have good results with them) which is why if I ran the DBol, I would run it at that fairly low amount. I know it isn't going to get me crazy gains at 30mg a day, but at least it should help get my body ready for when the Enanthate esthers finally kick in (I hope haha)

But per your recommendation, running Arimidex .5mg EOD literally entire cycle (weeks 1-14) would be advisable?

 

[HollaBack]

Agreed ^^^

Nice homework Hollaback, this is the best first post I have ever seen. About running your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) through pct.... some people like it, some don't. We all agree that the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose should be cut in 1/2 for pct though so if your on .5mg EoD drop to .25 EoD during post cycle therapy (pct). Some will tell you not to take it at all.

Your 1st time around I would run it through since you already have gyno sensitivity. If you feel like crap, next cycle don't run it through post cycle therapy (pct). This is why a test onnly cycle is best for cycle #1.... its like an experiment.

Thanks Erectus

I might hold off on the Dbol then and run the Arimidex at .5 EOD on cycle, then .25 during post cycle therapy (pct). Should i still keep the same PCT then? (40/40/20/20 nolva, 100/50/50/50 clomid)

If I'm dropping the Dbol, would it be beneficial to extend the Test E to 12 weeks instead of 10?

 

[darkside06]

Nice job on the homework bro. Run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) all the way through post cycle therapy (pct). Also do an HCG blast phase. After your last pin of test run the HCG @ 500iu ED for 10 days, then start pct 4 days later.

IMO natty test boosters are a waste. Doing the HCG, clomid and nolva will get your test back to normal better than any OTC test booster. Log it when you start, eat big.

Also, I wouldn't do the dbol first cycle, but up to you. 30mg is a light dose.

Really great advice right there!

and Welcome to Ology.

 

[Dfresh07]

keep that diet good and your g2g

 

[HollaBack]

I do have some Lean Xtreme layin around as well from about a year ago (cortisol control.) Would it be best to dose it as directed starting 2 weeks after final pin, or save it for a cycle that includes an oral?