After first cycle losing all gains HELP

[Superman80]

So I made a post on this a few days ago and since then my situation has gotten worse. I did my first cycle of test e 500 mg a week and I had all my post cycle therapy (pct) ready to go I thought o did all my research starting week 6 I was shooting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 700iu every 5 days. Boys came back and then 2 weeks after last test shot I started post cycle therapy (pct) and discontinued hcg. Nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50 my post cycle therapy (pct) was 30 days. I gained 24 pounds on this cycle and at the end of my post cycle therapy (pct) had kept 20 pounds. I was happy my balls were big and full again and I kept all my gains well now 3 weeks later my balls are just as small as they were on cycle I'm back down to my starting weight and I'm freaking out. I have a few questions. First is it possible to drop below my starting weight? I'm still training 5 days a week and eating like a cave man and the thing is I haven't lost much strength my bemch went up 70 lbs and I can still bench 60 of those lbs. But I want to know if I am going to lose anymore weight. Has anyone else ever experienced this? What did I do wrong? And what can I do to fix it I have an appointment with doc in 2 weeks I have no more clomid and my source is gone. Please help.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Rui has every thing your need. Get some clomid and igf-1 and you should start to recover. You should have been running the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the whole cycle. It sound like you didn't run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and most of what you gained was water. You need to make sure your protein intake is up.

Give us a little more history. Is this your first cycle. How old are you. Height, weight?

 

[Superman80]

Sorry I'm 22 this is my first cycle and I ran adex all through cycle and during bridge and post cycle therapy (pct). My gains were VERY solid and I kept them all through pct it's 3 weeks after pct and I'm losing it all I'm scared I will drop below my starting weight which was 184 I'm 6'2 and was at 208 at the end of this cycle and I'm already back to to 189 3 weeks after post cycle therapy (pct). My max bench is 315 and my squat was around 395 on cycle but damn did I ever lose weight in my legs after post cycle therapy (pct). Is it possible to drop lower than my original weight?

 

[Superman80]

And excuse my ignorance but I don't know what rui is or igf-1

 

[Repo]

RUI is a sponsor - just look up for the banner - they are awesome I love that company - very fast delivery with great products.

There are a lot of great sponsors here at ology - I've been very happy with Uncle Z but you can look around and see what fits your needs - you'll be fine as far as that goes.

I'll let some of of the guys here with more experience on your situation handle specific advice for you...

Your in good company!

 

[ezred]

i'm gonna try out precision peptides for that sort of thing as soon as i get with them to solve my payment issues.

that said, yes, you can drop under your previous weight. if your body is in a catabolic state you will continue to lose.

 

[BigBlackguy]

Try using a combination of toco-8 and triptorelin. Triptorelin is basically Gnrh and will stimulate the pituitary to start creating LH and FSH. The toco-8 has been shown to sensitize the testes to LH and thus is useful especially if Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) wasn't used on cycle.

Get blood work done if you can to check for hormone levels, LH especially.

 

[UserAt204]

Get some blood work done. It appears as if you did most everything correct. The only thing I can think of is you may need to increase your calorie intake and protien to maintain the new size. Also you may be over training which will kill your test levels when in pct and coming out of it. You only want to be in the gym 30 to 45 minutes at a time still lifting heavy with less sets and reps but high intensity. Only blood work will tell. You need a full hormone panel.

 

[Repo]

When you go to the doc make sure you have lab work done or check the sticky section at the top of the site.

There's a thread on blood work that is a good resource.

Make sure your doc checks your free test while he's at it - mine said my test was high so there wasn't a need to check free test ... "this was after the test - booo!"

That is correct - if you are in a catabolic state you can drop fast!

I had surgery last year and could only have liquid for several months and even though I was taking in masive amounts of protien - I lost a ton of weight ... So fast it was getting scary!!!

I was able to turn everything around and am in better shape than I was before surgery - the lab tests came back great.

Your on the right track by asking for advise - but don't worry - stress raises cortisone levels which can put you right back into a catabolic state.

 

[UserAt204]

Excellent advice repo and EZ

 

[scorob777]

You may have trouble getting a reply, the thread was 8 years old

 

[appleton111]

looks like you didn't run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and most of what you gained was water. You need to make sure your protein intake is up.