Anavar/Winstrol cycle: Supplementation and diet to reduce negative sides?

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Anabolicbeauty

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Hi! First of all, I'd like to introduce myself. This is my first post and I hope to get some advice on my second cycle.

My first cycle, I ran var the entire time and gained significant results with very little external side effects (the only prominent side being oily hair), but I am curious as how to minimize all negative side effects that may come with running a var/winstrol cycle. After much research and some opinion from those who have experience running a similar cycle, I have decided to stack my next var cycle with winstrol as follows:

Var:
Week 1: 10mg
Weeks 2-4 15mg
Weeks 5-8 20mg

Winny:
Weeks 3-4 5mg
Weeks 5-6 10mg

Some info about myself: 22 years old, 5'7" and weigh roughly 140lbs, 18% body fat. While image is important, health and performance is also crucial. I'm an athlete and a pole dancer and hope to reap the benefits from all aspects. My current supplementation includes L-glutamine, glucosamine, BCAAs, and protein.

I understand there is risk for negative side effects and with that said, I'd like to know what supplementation and/or diet is recommended for this type of cycle to avoid or reduce the risk of high LDL levels, liver damage, joint injuries, etc.?

I don't expect to be told everything right away and understand that knowledge comes with experience. (Most) input, advice and opinions would be greatly appreciated and I look forward to becoming part of the community! Thanks!
 
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Anabolicbeauty said:
Hi! First of all, I'd like to introduce myself. This is my first post and I hope to get some advice on my second cycle.

My first cycle, I ran var the entire time and gained significant results with very little external side effects (the only prominent side being oily hair), but I am curious as how to minimize all negative side effects that may come with running a var/winstrol cycle. After much research and some opinion from those who have experience running a similar cycle, I have decided to stack my next var cycle with winstrol as follows:

Week 1: 10mg var
Wk 2: 15mg var
Wk 3-4: 15mg var
5mg winny
Wk 5-6: 20mg var
10mg winny
Wk 7-8: 20mg var

Some info about myself: 22 years old, 5'7" and weigh roughly 140lbs, 18% body fat. While image is important, health and performance is also crucial. I'm an athlete and a pole dancer and hope to reap the benefits from all aspects. My current supplementation includes L-glutamine, glucosamine, BCAAs, and protein.

I understand there is risk for negative side effects and with that said, I'd like to know what supplementation and/or diet is recommended for this type of cycle to avoid or reduce the risk of high LDL levels, liver damage, joint injuries, etc.?

I don't expect to be told everything right away and understand that knowledge comes with experience. (Most) input, advice and opinions would be greatly appreciated and I look forward to becoming part of the community! Thanks!
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Not the most knowledgable on female AAS use but that looks like a pretty good cycle although I'd wait for some of the female members to comment lol. I do happen to know diet and nutrition so I can be of some help there.

For liver protection get some NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) and dose it at 1200mg-1800mg per day. You can split it into two doses (am/pm) if you wish. I got mine from amazon and bought it in bulk powder form. I'm not a fan of the capsules unless I cap them myself so I can determine my own dose. That should be more than enough liver protection and NAC has many many other benefits as well. It's also a precursor to glutathione which is the body's most powerful antioxidant.

For joints, there's not much besides some fish oil and glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM. Make sure you use good form on your lifts, try and stay away from machines as much as possible in favor of free weights (barbells and dumbells).

For goo cholesterol and lipid health, get plenty of EFA's, keep up the cardio, lower saturated fat intake, plant sterols, increase insoluble fiber intake, etc.

As to the diet itself, have you calculated your TDEE or BMR? Do you know your maintenance levels from experience or not? What are your specific goals: tone up, gain muscle, increase athletic performance, etc?
 
DreDay187 said:
Not the most knowledgable on female AAS use but that looks like a pretty good cycle although I'd wait for some of the female members to comment lol. I do happen to know diet and nutrition so I can be of some help there.

For liver protection get some NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) and dose it at 1200mg-1800mg per day. You can split it into two doses (am/pm) if you wish. I got mine from amazon and bought it in bulk powder form. I'm not a fan of the capsules unless I cap them myself so I can determine my own dose. That should be more than enough liver protection and NAC has many many other benefits as well. It's also a precursor to glutathione which is the body's most powerful antioxidant.

For joints, there's not much besides some fish oil and glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM. Make sure you use good form on your lifts, try and stay away from machines as much as possible in favor of free weights (barbells and dumbells).

For goo cholesterol and lipid health, get plenty of EFA's, keep up the cardio, lower saturated fat intake, plant sterols, increase insoluble fiber intake, etc.

As to the diet itself, have you calculated your TDEE or BMR? Do you know your maintenance levels from experience or not? What are your specific goals: tone up, gain muscle, increase athletic performance, etc?
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Thank you!! I'll be sure to look into getting some NAC as the liver damage was something I was very concerned about.

I just checked my BMR and TDEE (which I had no idea what it stood for..) and it came out to be around 1400 and 2200. I'm not huge on counting calories, macros, and whatnot but I'm more open minded to try it in order to understand what will steer me in the right direction to achieve my goals. I'd like to gain muscle (as much as I can) while leaning down (hopefully 2 to 3% body fat this cycle) and increase my athletic performance strength wise and still have energy to spare. I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to knowing what is in my food, but I have not gone as far as to figure out which levels suit me the best in order to achieve my goals. Thank you again for your help!
 
Anabolicbeauty said:
Thank you!! I'll be sure to look into getting some NAC as the liver damage was something I was very concerned about.

I just checked my BMR and TDEE (which I had no idea what it stood for..) and it came out to be around 1400 and 2200. I'm not huge on counting calories, macros, and whatnot but I'm more open minded to try it in order to understand what will steer me in the right direction to achieve my goals. I'd like to gain muscle (as much as I can) while leaning down (hopefully 2 to 3% body fat this cycle) and increase my athletic performance strength wise and still have energy to spare. I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to knowing what is in my food, but I have not gone as far as to figure out which levels suit me the best in order to achieve my goals. Thank you again for your help!
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Ok so if you're TDEE is 2200calories this means you burn 2200cals daily on average. Try eat at this level for a week or two and monitor any weight change. If you maintain your weight you've found your maintenance and if you gain/lost weight you know your maintenance is either lower/higher. Get most of your food from whole and minimally processed foods to help with satiety and micros. I like using Myfitnesspal app on the iphone and droid to track calories and macros. You can program custom foods, scan barcodes, etc so it's quick and painless. If you're wanting to build muscle to increase performance I'd suggest a mild/moderate calorie surplus of maybe 250cals/day. Aim for around 120-160g of protein, 50-60g fat and the rest carbs or more protein and fat. I'd also suggest to tweak your training for performance as well. Stick to the big compound lifts (with good form of course) like squats, bench, deadlifts, press, rows, etc and these will build your strength and muscle while incorporating Olympic lifts like power cleans, clean and jerk, continental cleans, hang cleans, snatches, etc will help build power and explosiveness which are invaluable for any athlete.
 
DreDay187 said:
Ok so if you're TDEE is 2200calories this means you burn 2200cals daily on average. Try eat at this level for a week or two and monitor any weight change. If you maintain your weight you've found your maintenance and if you gain/lost weight you know your maintenance is either lower/higher. Get most of your food from whole and minimally processed foods to help with satiety and micros. I like using Myfitnesspal app on the iphone and droid to track calories and macros. You can program custom foods, scan barcodes, etc so it's quick and painless. If you're wanting to build muscle to increase performance I'd suggest a mild/moderate calorie surplus of maybe 250cals/day. Aim for around 120-160g of protein, 50-60g fat and the rest carbs or more protein and fat. I'd also suggest to tweak your training for performance as well. Stick to the big compound lifts (with good form of course) like squats, bench, deadlifts, press, rows, etc and these will build your strength and muscle while incorporating Olympic lifts like power cleans, clean and jerk, continental cleans, hang cleans, snatches, etc will help build power and explosiveness which are invaluable for any athlete.
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If she she would ever have the patience to learn olympic lifts without stomping off that would be great
 
jack3d4life said:
She's a hard lifter though bro. Olympic lifts just taking longer. Clean squats 205 though
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Nice! I have no doubt she's a hard lifter but your job is to make her lift even harder ;). When I lift with my cousin, we know each other well enough so we know how to motivate the other. Whether it be ridicule, yelling, words of encouragement, motivation, etc he knows how to get a PR or max effort lift out of me and that's what you should do to help your girl out. Cue her during the lifts to keep her form tight, spot her when needed, and motivate her to crush the weights each and every rep.
 
DreDay187 said:
Ok so if you're TDEE is 2200calories this means you burn 2200cals daily on average. Try eat at this level for a week or two and monitor any weight change. If you maintain your weight you've found your maintenance and if you gain/lost weight you know your maintenance is either lower/higher. Get most of your food from whole and minimally processed foods to help with satiety and micros. I like using Myfitnesspal app on the iphone and droid to track calories and macros. You can program custom foods, scan barcodes, etc so it's quick and painless. If you're wanting to build muscle to increase performance I'd suggest a mild/moderate calorie surplus of maybe 250cals/day. Aim for around 120-160g of protein, 50-60g fat and the rest carbs or more protein and fat. I'd also suggest to tweak your training for performance as well. Stick to the big compound lifts (with good form of course) like squats, bench, deadlifts, press, rows, etc and these will build your strength and muscle while incorporating Olympic lifts like power cleans, clean and jerk, continental cleans, hang cleans, snatches, etc will help build power and explosiveness which are invaluable for any athlete.
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Downloaded the app and it's in use right now :) You've been a great help.
 
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