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How bad could steroids be for a 20 year old? Or how about prohormones? Have you or anybody you know taken steriods as a teen. I've been planing on trying somehting soon so I joined this site and thought this would be the best place to start. Especially cause it clearly says no flamming!
 
How bad could steroids be for a 20 year old? Or how about prohormones? Have you or anybody you know taken steriods as a teen. I've been planing on trying somehting soon so I joined this site and thought this would be the best place to start. Especially cause it clearly says no flamming!

There is a good thread I read that STONECOLDNTO posted but cant find it should be a sticky.Anyways it goes over all the possible adverse effects from using AAS to young.Some of the point I remember and growth stunting, permanent hormonal imbalance and many more.
Ill try to find that post for ya,give me a few
 
Yeah thanks that'd be great I'm not saying I'm gonna run off and do them right away. I've been doing smaller amounts of research throughout the years but I'm almost certain that there's a lot more for me to learn.
 
its just not a good idea to do either at such a young age cause they will both shut down your natural testosterone production. you have more natural testosterone pumping through your veins then you will ever have in your life. one simple steroid or PH cycle could change that forever.

also your growth plates may not be fully closed. and the excess estrogen that these compounds contribute too-can make them stop growing prematurely. so you could end up with one leg shorter than the other-or arm or vice versa.

90% of building muscle is diet, rest and training. if you do not do these efficiently you will not get the full benefit of AAS or PH. so what i would do at your age-is learn about diet in the section here on the forum-learn about training-apply your knowledge-then spend a couple years learning the different compounds (steroids) and what the positive and negative effects are-then apply your knowledge in that area lastly.
 
How bad could steroids be for a 20 year old? Or how about prohormones? Have you or anybody you know taken steriods as a teen. I've been planing on trying somehting soon so I joined this site and thought this would be the best place to start. Especially cause it clearly says no flamming!

Here ya go bro.


Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.
What appears below was developed by a number of our good friends at www.anabolicfitness.com

Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.


Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (growth plates) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (voicebox) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later.
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Stone Cold..............................Never Too Old



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Well I do want to argue those points. My test isn't very high its about 450ng/dl(i think), I've been 6'2 for the last 5 years I've been done growing for a while. I'm also 240 14% bf and have been training quite some time. and as far as knowing about proper diet and training, I'm only a couple classes and an internship away from getting my AS degree in exercise science. I understand the importance of diet and training, I know that even taking most supplements wont do much without a good diet and everything. But I've always lacked the strength I want and I've never been as cut as I want to be. I'm not one to just take something without knowing thats why I wanna know the truth behind the side effects of anabolic steriods.
 
I had a doctor check them a couple months back.

for my age 275-1200 is good

if I'm only at 450 then I could go almost 500 up and still be in the good range. and I'm pretty much at the low side of good.

the problem is I don't gain strength very fast and I do train very hard and do eat right but I've just never been very strong. I'd really like to try something that will allow me to gain the strength and muscle size that I've always wanted
 
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if your test levels really are that low-it kinda changes my opinion on the subject-but i would def not run any Pro-Hormones......I just feel if your going to take the risks those bring......mine as well pin some test
 
I trained pretty hard my freshmen and sophomore year of high school I took my junior year off and then started getting backi nto it my senior year which is when I started trying power lifting and bodybuilding and taking protein and creatine and that was from when I was 18 till now I'm 20 I figure another good year of lifting and I'll be 21 and have more knowledge I just want to start learning soon.
 
well i think *if your test levels are not optimal * and you educate yourself and do it properly, i myself see no harm in starting with a test cycle.
 
People always say that at my age my test levels are soooo high and blah blah blah and its annoying because I personally know that 450 is not high. there are 75 year old men who normally range in the upper 500's but because its over the 275 mark its not considered very low. but I understand that more test with proper training and nutrition will lead to more muscle growth. I rarely put 5lbs on my bench in a couple weeks without going on extreme bulking diets and I usually have a somewhat lower sex drive and my muscles usually look pretty soft never dry and lean. But that could all be just my excuse for not training hard enough or just carrying to much body fat. My buddy did suggest running test c or e and trying tren his brother had been studying steriod for the last year and they already ran one cycle very successfully and plan on doing another in a few weeks. this is my chance to try some test but I will probably sit this cycle out and read up on my own what I need to do. personally My goals would be to get as strong as I possibly can and get cut as fuck so I'll be at a low enough body weight to get into the air force (they told me to drop over 20lbs which I could do with dieting but I want to gain strength and I know with juice I could) if anybody else has any good information please help me out!
 
I tip my hat to you guys for this thread.

I am about to receive 5000IU hcg and bac water. I am gonna run it through out my upcoming cycle.

Here is my question, can I mix the whole 5000IU together with 10ml bac water in one go to store and keep on drawing from the same glass these 8 weeks I am gonna be using it? i.e what is the life time of it after it has been mixed?

yes you can mix it with bac-and then put in fridge. should be good up to 60 days.

i dont understand what you mean about go to store though?
 
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