Aveed (Nebido) approved in the US

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U.S. FDA Approves AVEED(TM) (Testosterone Undecanoate) Injectable Testosterone Replacement Therapy For Men Living With Hypogonadism, Or Low-T - WSJ.com
AVEED is available as a single-use vial. Dosage titration is not necessary. Following the first intramuscular injection of 3 mL of AVEED (750 mg), a second 3 mL dose is injected 4 weeks later, and then 3 mL is injected every 10 weeks thereafter. AVEED is prescribed and administered by trained healthcare providers in a doctor's office, clinic, or hospital.


Sorry if this has already been posted. I have to admit, I never thought it would happen. In fact, I've said as much on here, so color me very surprised. Of note, is the large volume of 3mL, and the requirement of a 90 second push. Also, it won't be available in a pharmacy, it must be injected by a healthcare provider in a clinic setting. All HCPs must be 'certified' on its proper administration techniques.

Seems like a good TRT option for busy people. But, it certainly doesn't fit well with the new men's health clinic business model, where the financial drivers are weekly visits.

Also, we finally see the safety issues that have delayed approval for these seven years: anaphylaxis and pulmonary oil microembolism (POME). Apparently branded commercial testosterone solutions have the same warning on anaphylaxis, but none have ever included wording on POME.


The FDA considered not just Endo's lone, rather small research study (N=141), but also post-marketing adverse event data from Europe, where Aveed (Nebido) has been approved for a number of years:
http://www.internalmedicinenews.com/index.php?id=2049&type=98&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=142661&cHash=da03e20e36
An FDA review of 199 postmarketing cases of POME, between November 2003 and April 2012, determined that 84 were severe, with severe dyspnea, loss of consciousness, circulatory collapse, or loss of bowel function. Many cases started as the medication was being injected. Although no deaths were reported, the long-term cardiopulmonary effects of severe cases or chronic effects of repeated less-severe episodes are not known, according to the FDA. During 2003-2011, there were 53 postmarketing cases of anaphylaxis reported, using a conservative definition.


Aveed's Black Box Warning:
WARNING: SERIOUS PULMONARY OIL MICROEMBOLISM (POME) REACTIONS AND ANAPHYLAXIS
--Serious POME reactions, involving urge to cough, dyspnea, throat tightening, chest pain, dizziness, and syncope; and episodes of anaphylaxis, including life-threatening reactions, have been reported to occur during or immediately after the administration of testosterone undecanoate injection. These reactions can occur after any injection of testosterone undecanoate during the course of therapy, including after the first dose.

--Following each injection of AVEED (testosterone undecanoate) injection, for intramuscular use CIII, observe patients in the healthcare setting for 30 minutes in order to provide appropriate medical treatment in the event of serious POME reactions or anaphylaxis.

--Because of the risks of serious POME reactions and anaphylaxis, AVEED is available only through a restricted program under a Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy (REMS) called the AVEED REMS Program.
 
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Not sure if I am just not comprehending it but Nebido is just Test Undec which has an active life of 34 days regardless of the dosage you take, so to say you only need a maintenance shot every 10 - 14 weeks is pretty absurd as your levels will return to pre test levels alot earlier than 10 weeks.

Am I misunderstanding something here or is there some oother active ester in it that would extend the active life of the testosterone?
 
Not sure if I am just not comprehending it but Nebido is just Test Undec which has an active life of 34 days regardless of the dosage you take, so to say you only need a maintenance shot every 10 - 14 weeks is pretty absurd as your levels will return to pre test levels alot earlier than 10 weeks.

Am I misunderstanding something here or is there some oother active ester in it that would extend the active life of the testosterone?

I think it is pretty much the same as the directions that come with the vial of Test Cypionate you get which tell you to Inject once every 14 days.
 
Not sure if I am just not comprehending it but Nebido is just Test Undec which has an active life of 34 days regardless of the dosage you take, so to say you only need a maintenance shot every 10 - 14 weeks is pretty absurd as your levels will return to pre test levels alot earlier than 10 weeks.

Am I misunderstanding something here or is there some oother active ester in it that would extend the active life of the testosterone?

I think you are correct. It is simply Testosterone Undecanoate. If you pull the complete prescribing information, the administration protocol is to inject 750mL Test Und and then bring the patient back in at 4 weeks time and inject an additional 750mL. From then on, it is injected every 10 weeks. So it looks like an attempt to frontload.
Week 1 750mL
Week 4 750mL
Week 14 750mL
Week 24 750mL
Week 34 750mL
etc.
 
And a huge cost increase for simple test, its like over 60$ per ml for a 4ml ampule at my local pharmacy. I think they are taking a ford escort and dressing it up and promoting it like a mustang but in the end its still gonna be an escort.
 
A patentable (VERY important) shiny new form of a hormone that has existed for the last 60+ years. Let me get on my dancin' shoes... oh wait, it's just another way for big pharma to suck more money out of folks that are scared of needles as is. I know some guys are really looking forward to this, but does injecting .5mL 2x a week REALLY take that much time?

Perhaps I'm just jaded when it comes to stuff like this, but I'd rather they look into other alternatives like Anabolic-SARM research or even myostatin regulators. Anyhoo, grats to those that want to pin once every 2.5 months. :)
 
If they would let you pin at home and the cost was comparable to Test Cyp, it might be nice to try it and pin every 10-14 days on it. I am fine with pinning every 3.5 days, but it does get tiring after a while for TRT. Less often wouldn't be such a bad thing if it worked.

The pulmonary oil microembolism sounds kind of bad though...
 
A patentable (VERY important) shiny new form of a hormone that has existed for the last 60+ years. Let me get on my dancin' shoes... oh wait, it's just another way for big pharma to suck more money out of folks that are scared of needles as is. I know some guys are really looking forward to this, but does injecting .5mL 2x a week REALLY take that much time?

Perhaps I'm just jaded when it comes to stuff like this, but I'd rather they look into other alternatives like Anabolic-SARM research or even myostatin regulators. Anyhoo, grats to those that want to pin once every 2.5 months. :)

.5ml 2x a week would put me at over 1500 ng/dl trough level....
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A patentable (VERY important) shiny new form of a hormone that has existed for the last 60+ years. Let me get on my dancin' shoes... oh wait, it's just another way for big pharma to suck more money out of folks that are scared of needles as is. I know some guys are really looking forward to this, but does injecting .5mL 2x a week REALLY take that much time?

Perhaps I'm just jaded when it comes to stuff like this, but I'd rather they look into other alternatives like Anabolic-SARM research or even myostatin regulators. Anyhoo, grats to those that want to pin once every 2.5 months. :)

Agreeance.

With a restrictive REMs program, and no chance for patient self-administration, I don't see sales of Aveed being all that impressive. On the other hand, the clinics will get to collect about $50 for each injection, and they can make an extra 6% above their purchase cost (they'll get to purchase it directly and then resell to the patient).
 
The pulmonary oil microembolism sounds kind of bad though...

Wonder why it is so bad with this product? Is it simply because of the larger volume of oil in a 3mL dose?

I've never done more than 1.5 mL at a time, but I know there are plenty of folks doing extraordinary volumes...do they typically see more POME also?
 
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