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give the guy a break guys.

a test/deca/dbol cycle is a proven mass builder .if its a 1st cycle the test at 400-600 mg a week for 10-12 weeks is the best choice.
 
give the guy a break guys.

a test/deca/dbol cycle is a proven mass builder .if its a 1st cycle the test at 400-600 mg a week for 10-12 weeks is the best choice.

If the OP can tolerate pinning more try Prop/NPP/Dbol. Same compounds with shorter esters. Would see same results in around 8 weeks compared with the 10-12. From a personal stand point, why do deca if you can get NPP. Just my point of view.
 
If the OP can tolerate pinning more try Prop/NPP/Dbol. Same compounds with shorter esters. Would see same results in around 8 weeks compared with the 10-12. From a personal stand point, why do deca if you can get NPP. Just my point of view.

not everyone enjoys being a pin cushion. for a experienced cycler running a large cycle the lower mg gear and every other day injections make long ester gear like deca/eq/cyp/eth/etc. much more attractive , besides most of them are running longer cycles anyway.
 
not everyone enjoys being a pin cushion. for a experienced cycler running a large cycle the lower mg gear and every other day injections make long ester gear like deca/eq/cyp/eth/etc. much more attractive , besides most of them are running longer cycles anyway.

Very true. I wasn't thinking about experienced and long cyclers. We do not know anything about the OP, but I will venture to guess that if this question is being asked they aren't in that category. Then again we know what assumptions do... I proposed the alternative of short esters for a short but effective cycle. I also prefaced with the fact it will require more pinning.
 
and prop stings, for a first cycle.. my virgin muscles are gettn a lil used to it now, but its my 3rd round of injections, and im using shoulders and quads. shoulders are suprisngly holdn up better then the legs are. lol . but i am just impatient and could not wait the 4 wks for it to kick in.
 
If the OP can tolerate pinning more try Prop/NPP/Dbol. Same compounds with shorter esters. Would see same results in around 8 weeks compared with the 10-12. From a personal stand point, why do deca if you can get NPP. Just my point of view.

I have done prop before but never the others, do all the short esters sting like the prop?
 
i know i may get slammed-but i just dont buy it...........to me NPP is different than deca-and E and C is different than prop.............i just dont retain as much water with the short esters.
 
i know i may get slammed-but i just dont buy it...........to me NPP is different than deca-and E and C is different than prop.............i just dont retain as much water with the short esters.

most people dont take 600 or 800 mg a week of prop but they would eth or cyp. not a fair comparison lol. throw in the buildup of gear in the system for long esters at the end of a cycle and bam.
 
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