Sorry this is going to be a bit long winded but I'll do my best to summarize it as best I can....
I'm a 34yr old male. 6'2" 220lbs about 15% bf. Relatively good shape, weights 3-4x a week, cardio 4-5x a week. Don't smoke, drink socially and eat relatively well.
I did 4 moderate AAS cycles in my early and mid 20's. Nothing too crazy, just some test/dbol, test/eq and test/deca.
About 7 years ago I went to see my doc and got a script for proscar as I had noticed my hair starting to thin in the crown area. I cut the pill into 4 and took a quarter tablet every day for about 6 months. About 3 months into this regiment I noticed that my sex drive fell off a cliff. It was awful and chicks were the furthest thing from my mind. I read that sometimes this would happen with proscar and that the best thing to do would be to continue taking it and the libido issue would work itself out. Well......I rode it out for another 3 months and things only got worse so I made the decision to come off the proscar as my sex drive to me was much more important that a few extra hairs on my head!
Well, here I am, 7 years later and my sex drive still sucks. I have to force myself into having sex even once a week and my girl has pretty much reached her wits end with the whole situation. I'm also constantly tired, little to no energy or motivation, irritable have problems concentrating and I'm ready for bed at 10pm every night, pass out by 11 but don't sleep soundly at all and wake up by 5:30am. So basically 6-6.5 hours of shitty sleep every night.
About 1 year ago I decided to take myself in to the doctor and get a testosterone test and my test came back at 377ng/dl. "Normal Range" was 280-950 so I was very low normal. Since I was within the range however my doctor refused any sort of HRT. Since I was apparently "too young" for it and not out of range I was not a candidate.
I couldn't handle feeling the way I did any longer so I decided to take things into my own hands and self administer HRT. As I hadn't used any AAS since my mid 20's I decided I'd first run a basic cycle to kick start things. I kept it simple and ran 500mg Test E for 14 weeks. Put on 15lbs of muscle and also dropped some fat and felt great! After the 14 weeks I slowly tapered down the dose over another 10 weeks until I reached my desired dose of 100mg every days. I continued this for another 5 months and things were all good until I learned that work was going to be taking me out of town for some time and I would be at a location where test would not be available unless I attempted to smuggle my stuff with me on the plane. A risk I wasn't willing to take! So...... I came off the test and ran a solid PCT consisting of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), Clomid, Nolva and Aromasin. I understood before coming off that things were not going to be that great for a while as it would take some time to recover but It's now been almost 4 months since my last shot of test and despite running a proper PCT my sex drive is non-existent. The energy problems have returned, I have no motivation, constant feeling of brain fog (all the signs of Low T) and it's starting to make me depressed.
What's even stranger is that I took myself in for another testosterone test last week expecting it to hopefully come back below "normal" so I could get on a monitored Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) but to my total disbelief it came back at 550ng/dl!
My estradiol was 33pg/ml. I'm now apparently 200 points higher than I was a year ago ??!!
A couple other flags were that my creatinine was a few points higher than normal range and this I believe resulted in my GFR Estimate (Kidney Function) coming in slightly below normal range at 59. I have read however that creatinine can be higher in active people who have more muscle mass than normal and who eat a lot of red meat which I do.
I'm totally lost with what to do here as my sex drive feeling of overall crappiness is worse now than before I decided administer my own HRT.
Its also been 2 months now since I finished running my PCT. Could this still be affecting my readings?
Anyone have any suggestions here? I'm contemplating just restarting the test. Even though I can't get it from my doc at least it makes me feel better. I'm really sick of feeling this way.
I've also recently started taking 3iu of hgh/ day to try help things along a bit. I don't feel much from it at all quite yet but I'm prepared to give it some time.
Thanks in advance for any advice and input.
And THANKS PROSCAR....you're the greatest
I'm a 34yr old male. 6'2" 220lbs about 15% bf. Relatively good shape, weights 3-4x a week, cardio 4-5x a week. Don't smoke, drink socially and eat relatively well.
I did 4 moderate AAS cycles in my early and mid 20's. Nothing too crazy, just some test/dbol, test/eq and test/deca.
About 7 years ago I went to see my doc and got a script for proscar as I had noticed my hair starting to thin in the crown area. I cut the pill into 4 and took a quarter tablet every day for about 6 months. About 3 months into this regiment I noticed that my sex drive fell off a cliff. It was awful and chicks were the furthest thing from my mind. I read that sometimes this would happen with proscar and that the best thing to do would be to continue taking it and the libido issue would work itself out. Well......I rode it out for another 3 months and things only got worse so I made the decision to come off the proscar as my sex drive to me was much more important that a few extra hairs on my head!
Well, here I am, 7 years later and my sex drive still sucks. I have to force myself into having sex even once a week and my girl has pretty much reached her wits end with the whole situation. I'm also constantly tired, little to no energy or motivation, irritable have problems concentrating and I'm ready for bed at 10pm every night, pass out by 11 but don't sleep soundly at all and wake up by 5:30am. So basically 6-6.5 hours of shitty sleep every night.
About 1 year ago I decided to take myself in to the doctor and get a testosterone test and my test came back at 377ng/dl. "Normal Range" was 280-950 so I was very low normal. Since I was within the range however my doctor refused any sort of HRT. Since I was apparently "too young" for it and not out of range I was not a candidate.
I couldn't handle feeling the way I did any longer so I decided to take things into my own hands and self administer HRT. As I hadn't used any AAS since my mid 20's I decided I'd first run a basic cycle to kick start things. I kept it simple and ran 500mg Test E for 14 weeks. Put on 15lbs of muscle and also dropped some fat and felt great! After the 14 weeks I slowly tapered down the dose over another 10 weeks until I reached my desired dose of 100mg every days. I continued this for another 5 months and things were all good until I learned that work was going to be taking me out of town for some time and I would be at a location where test would not be available unless I attempted to smuggle my stuff with me on the plane. A risk I wasn't willing to take! So...... I came off the test and ran a solid PCT consisting of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), Clomid, Nolva and Aromasin. I understood before coming off that things were not going to be that great for a while as it would take some time to recover but It's now been almost 4 months since my last shot of test and despite running a proper PCT my sex drive is non-existent. The energy problems have returned, I have no motivation, constant feeling of brain fog (all the signs of Low T) and it's starting to make me depressed.
What's even stranger is that I took myself in for another testosterone test last week expecting it to hopefully come back below "normal" so I could get on a monitored Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) but to my total disbelief it came back at 550ng/dl!
My estradiol was 33pg/ml. I'm now apparently 200 points higher than I was a year ago ??!!A couple other flags were that my creatinine was a few points higher than normal range and this I believe resulted in my GFR Estimate (Kidney Function) coming in slightly below normal range at 59. I have read however that creatinine can be higher in active people who have more muscle mass than normal and who eat a lot of red meat which I do.
I'm totally lost with what to do here as my sex drive feeling of overall crappiness is worse now than before I decided administer my own HRT.
Its also been 2 months now since I finished running my PCT. Could this still be affecting my readings?
Anyone have any suggestions here? I'm contemplating just restarting the test. Even though I can't get it from my doc at least it makes me feel better. I'm really sick of feeling this way.
I've also recently started taking 3iu of hgh/ day to try help things along a bit. I don't feel much from it at all quite yet but I'm prepared to give it some time.
Thanks in advance for any advice and input.
And THANKS PROSCAR....you're the greatest
