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Trucker111

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Calories count the same all day

Published on: 03/21/07

Is the last thing you see before you go to bed A) David Letterman, B) a novel or C) the bottom of the ice cream bowl?

If you answered C, the good news is the timing of your ice cream snack won't cost you any more weight gain than if you ate it after breakfast. Calories consumed late in the day are the same as calories consumed early, says Gelsie Lessig of Northside Hospital's Outpatient Nutrition Services.
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Calories are the same, whether you eat them early in the morning or late at night.

Lessig says people who eat three balanced meals and three snacks probably won't want a late snack, but if you are hungry or if your schedule forces you to eat shortly before bedtime:

•Stick to easily and quickly digested foods such as baked chicken, a baked potato and a green vegetable.

•If a full stomach helps you go to sleep, try a glass of warm milk or a cup of chamomile tea before bed instead.

•A snack one hour before bed is OK: Try a tablespoon of peanut butter on a slice of whole-wheat toast, a granola bar, fruit with a piece of string cheese or yogurt.

— Staff reports
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I agree, when it comes down to it overall caloric value has much more impact than timing. Bottom line is that if your eating the same calories as u consume you won't gain weight.
 
And jellybeans are fat free so you can eat them all day and not gain fat.
He/She has one thing correct though, a calorie is still a calorie. However, to say that timing has no effect on fat gain is absurd.

The main problem is that people are stupid. This wouldn't be as huge a problem if the people who were 'experts' weren't equally as stupid. How is anybody supposed to know how to eat and train properly when there is so much disinformation out there it takes months of research to really know what the hell is going on. And you can't trust nutritionists, at least ones I see on tv or that I've actually met in person. They are like religious nuts with their 'truths'. Too bad these truths change weekly...eggs are good for you, no they're bad for you, no, they're good for you, NO, they're BAD for you, NOOO, they're GOOOOOOOD.....and so on.

I've had nutritionists tell me if somebody went on atkins, they would only lose water weight, and that they would die if they stayed on it for any length of time because their kidneys would fail and that it doesn't help people lose fat in the least. This kind of ties in with the timing thing, if you curb carbs, you allow your body to lose fat faster.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating atkins, but to argue against it's efficacy is moronic.
 
Exactly, it's about using your best judgement. 1 bowl of ice cream before bed now and again will do nothing. A tub of ice cream before you sleep every night will make you more of a lard ass.
 
outlawtas2 said:
Exactly, it's about using your best judgement. 1 bowl of ice cream before bed now and again will do nothing. A tub of ice cream before you sleep every night will make you more of a lard ass.

Except if that tub of ice cream was Ben and Jerry's DNP swirl, with a dash of dnp to keep you warm at night.
 
TxLonghorn said:
Except if that tub of ice cream was Ben and Jerry's DNP swirl, with a dash of dnp to keep you warm at night.


I think its actually a DNP/Clen swirl that they make now for the diet savvy.

I can't remember where I read this and I'm too lazy to look it up but there was a study done where they had people do the majority of their eating between the hours of 9-12 in the morning as opposed to 9-12 at night and over the course of a year it fluctuated their bodyweight by +/- 25lbs. Interesting.
 
TxLonghorn said:
And jellybeans are fat free so you can eat them all day and not gain fat.
He/She has one thing correct though, a calorie is still a calorie. However, to say that timing has no effect on fat gain is absurd.

The main problem is that people are stupid. This wouldn't be as huge a problem if the people who were 'experts' weren't equally as stupid. How is anybody supposed to know how to eat and train properly when there is so much disinformation out there it takes months of research to really know what the hell is going on. And you can't trust nutritionists, at least ones I see on tv or that I've actually met in person. They are like religious nuts with their 'truths'. Too bad these truths change weekly...eggs are good for you, no they're bad for you, no, they're good for you, NO, they're BAD for you, NOOO, they're GOOOOOOOD.....and so on.

I've had nutritionists tell me if somebody went on atkins, they would only lose water weight, and that they would die if they stayed on it for any length of time because their kidneys would fail and that it doesn't help people lose fat in the least. This kind of ties in with the timing thing, if you curb carbs, you allow your body to lose fat faster.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating atkins, but to argue against it's efficacy is moronic.
could you elaberate a little on this part of your post.
depending on what text you use it in that could be very misleading.
 
adidamps2 said:
could you elaberate a little on this part of your post.
depending on what text you use it in that could be very misleading.

Regardless of what time of the day it is, 1 gram of protein or carbohydrate is 4 calories. That doesn't change.

Having said that, losing or gaining weight is not static, but dynamic and ever changing. Why not just stop eating if you want to lose weight? Because your body slows it's metabolism, etc., etc.

I'm basically saying that the statement of a calorie is a calorie is correct, but it is totally irrelevant to what should be discussed. It's a distraction to help muddy the water and make people think you know what you're talking about because technically, you are correct.
 
Why would consuming fruit be bad before bed? I mean I dont know for sure but if I read correctly. your body feeds off of carbs for energy during the night eventually going into a catabolic state where proteins are burned up which is not what we want correct?

would it not be best to eat a good slow burning carb. is fruit not one of our slow burning carbs?

D~
 
TxLonghorn said:
And jellybeans are fat free so you can eat them all day and not gain fat.
He/She has one thing correct though, a calorie is still a calorie. However, to say that timing has no effect on fat gain is absurd.

The main problem is that people are stupid. This wouldn't be as huge a problem if the people who were 'experts' weren't equally as stupid. How is anybody supposed to know how to eat and train properly when there is so much disinformation out there it takes months of research to really know what the hell is going on. And you can't trust nutritionists, at least ones I see on tv or that I've actually met in person. They are like religious nuts with their 'truths'. Too bad these truths change weekly...eggs are good for you, no they're bad for you, no, they're good for you, NO, they're BAD for you, NOOO, they're GOOOOOOOD.....and so on.

I've had nutritionists tell me if somebody went on atkins, they would only lose water weight, and that they would die if they stayed on it for any length of time because their kidneys would fail and that it doesn't help people lose fat in the least. This kind of ties in with the timing thing, if you curb carbs, you allow your body to lose fat faster.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating atkins, but to argue against it's efficacy is moronic.

All beeing said.
 
Bdub said:
Why would consuming fruit be bad before bed? I mean I dont know for sure but if I read correctly. your body feeds off of carbs for energy during the night eventually going into a catabolic state where proteins are burned up which is not what we want correct?

would it not be best to eat a good slow burning carb. is fruit not one of our slow burning carbs?

D~
Fruit = simple carb. If you want to eat a carb before bed, slow burning would be oatmeal, sweet potato, whole wheat whatever..

Yes your body uses carbs for energy, and if there is no energy, your body will go into a catabolic state. That being said, if you ingest a slow digesting protein (micellar casien) before bed, you will keep your amino acid blood levels high enough where your body will use those for energy, not breaking down your muslce.

So, if you have a 2-3 hour carb cutoff, and take say 40g of micellar casien before bed, your body will tap into fat stores for glucose (where this would normally come from the carb you ate), and use the amino acids in your blood from the protein for that source.

I know that was kind of scattered, but basically: Your body will break down tissue if the nutrients it needs aren't available in the blood. If you don't eat a carb before bed, most of the glucose needed will be synthesized from fat. If you take slow digesting protein before bed, your body will not need to break down muscle tissue for amino acids, as they will be readily available.
 
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