clomidhow long does it take

[Alpin]

All im saying is go slow. You dont want fucked up clomid sides with too high a dose.
You were on 100 mg for a week though....howd that treat you?
You might be able to handle clomid with ease who knows.
You sound pretty confident and determined.

 

[moehacket]

man i would guess atleast 2 years. thats when i did my last cycle. i did pct but eather it didnt help or numbers just dropped after the 4 week pct. yes i used clomid before with nolv. after my last two cycles. ive only ran 2 in my whole life

 

[Alpin]

That bid of info u told me changes everything. In order for SERMs to work better you need to prime the T in your balls with HCG. You need an aggressive restart protocol.
I had 300ng/dl TT with 4 LH & 2 FSH.
Running 500 I.u. EOD of HCG I can get TT to 500 ng/dl.
You need to get to atleast 500 ng/dl TT before beginning SERM s like clomid. Remember clomid will pull LH and FSH out of your pituitary like a vacuum but if your leydigs are atrophied cause of cycling or TRT....its a whole different story.

 

[Alpin]

That bid of info u told me changes everything. In order for SERMs to work better you need to prime the T in your balls with HCG. You need an aggressive restart protocol.
I had 300ng/dl TT with 4 LH & 2 FSH.
Running 500 I.u. EOD of HCG I can get TT to 500 ng/dl.
You need to get to atleast 500 ng/dl TT before beginning SERM s like clomid. Remember clomid will pull LH and FSH out of your pituitary like a vacuum but if your leydigs are atrophied cause of cycling or TRT....its a whole different story.

 

[moehacket]

So your saying to use hcg to get to 500 then start the clomid?

 

[Alpin]

I think u would be best served hitting IMT up. Those ppl have restarted many male hptas with track record of success. What ever anyone else advises you is a crap shoot in the dark even endos know nothing about restarts.
Shir theyll precribe clomid or hcg but they are not educated on how to use them to their full potential.
The odd one might. But ive nevet heard of one or even met one and I've seen a lot of endos.

 

[moehacket]

sorry what is imt stand for? i looked on google dont see anything related
i did take hcg during last 2 cycles and did afterwards a blast up to starting nolv and clomid at week 14.
my balls never shrunk

 

[moehacket]

are there any sites here to get just hcg? only place i know about has a minimum 300+ order

 

[Alpin]

IMT = Increase my T
They are an anti aging clinic

 

[Alpin]

I would work with them. They know restarts.

 

[moehacket]

IMT = Increase my T
They are an anti aging clinic

oh yes i talked them the other day about low test they were thinkingg of getting me on trt, just need my phsical done, but they are kinda expensive

 

[moehacket]

anyone took the liquid clomi before? I just got mine and it tastes NASTY!!! any tips?

 

[Alpin]

anyone took the liquid clomi before? I just got mine and it tastes NASTY!!! any tips?

I thought u had a script?

 

[moehacket]

3 weeks on clomid now and i dont notice any changes.

 

[Alpin]

What dose?
Zero changes at all?
You ditched the Hcg restart idea?

 

[Alpin]

If I try the DIM I will buy the "Olympian labs" brand at 250 mg/ cap with the bioperin for absorption.

 

[moehacket]

i have ordered hcg but it isnt come in yet. I was thinking ill wait a little while to see if the clomid starts doing something before using the hcg. I dont notice any changes yet im at 50mg ed

 

[Alpin]

i have ordered hcg but it isnt come in yet. I was thinking ill wait a little while to see if the clomid starts doing something before using the hcg. I dont notice any changes yet im at 50mg ed

No increase in libido, no strength increase, nothing to report thus far?
YES....
DO NOT interupt your protocol until you get labs on this restart attempt. Get labs come back and list the results.
But your 3 weeks in and at a decent dose ED as well.
Your leydig cells may very well be atrophied after your last cycle or failed restart.

 

[moehacket]

correct no increase in nothing.
ok i go back in a few weeks sure he will do new blood work then.

 

[jomamma007]

took me about 4-5 weeks to start feeling the SERMS, other feel it in a few days and some don't feel it at all.
Finish your restart and get some blood work to see where you're at.