Cruising.....(never coming off test)

[BigPeanuts00]

Ok so I 23 weeks ago started my first cycle of test ended cycle at 800mg per week and deca 600mg per week and decided not to come off test jus to lower it to 250-300mg per week for next 6-8 weeks the going back on 800mg per week test and 400mg per week tren and 600mg per week equipoise for 20 weeks.. then back to 250-300test for 6-8 and back on for another cycle.

My ? is should I still 2 weeks after heavy cycle pin use clomid 50mg a day for 4 weeks while using .5mg anasolut and using hcg? I would plan to continue using the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout but not sure if i should jus use like 500iu every day or three days thoughout or what>>>

Thanks for help in advance....

current stats are: age:30 Height:5' 11" Weight:200lbs

 

[Jack Tors]

shit is confusing soyour doing a cruise and blast which means u dont do a pct?!? aint gunna help u restore natty test if u plan to jump back on. i wud use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughput

 

[grind4it]

Not unless your bean bag is shrunk.....if you have testicular atrophy you can use the Clomid to grow the boys back, then discontinue when they are back to your precycle size.
But if you are asking if you need to use Clomid in a "PCT fashion" while crushing the answer is no.

In regards to the HCG...again if you want to address baby balls yes, work it into your cycle/cruise. You may need to play with the dose. I like 500 2X a week. Continue to use your Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if you have reduced your base test dose, you may need to adjust your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) down as well. Blook work would be a good idea.

I couldn't help but noticed in your signature that you are 30. Be carful bro, your heading down a road that could lead to TRT. I'm not trying to sweat you, but testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is for life.......Every week until you take the long dirt nap.

 

[chain]

You are too young to be doing this. You didn't mention a goal or areason why you are doing this.
I would say blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and start post cycle therapy (pct) and time on equals time off, unless you have low test or want to do trt

 

[FORBODYBUILDERS-BLOG]

big true,you are too jung to do it..
be smart and go off when you are not on cycle,body need to clean up and relax..

 

[BlindSniper]

Im 50, so its a little different than you being 30. Your natural production will be gone if you continue to run gear non-stop. Something to consider.

 

[justin h]

Your title is ridiculous. Your just setting yourself up for failure, and it looks like you've developed a mental and pysical addition. 20weeks is along as you "should" go. Of course if your seasoned/experienced.

 

[Moppy1]

I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life (45 years old), and it is probably inevitable for most of us, the longer we go, even with proper recovery between cycles.

 

[BigPeanuts00]

So basically what i am getting from everyone is that even if I continue to use "juice" and post cycle therapy (pct) adventually it is inevitable and i will be testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) weekly anyhow at somepoint.

So if i decide to stay on is a test base dose of 300mg per week correct or sould i b at like 250mg per week?

this is def a tough decision for me.... was thinking of lowering test dose to 250mg per week while "off cycle" and using Proviron and arimidex as i have been as well as Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) then going back "on cycle" with boosting test base back up around 800mg and using whatever to stack.. ie tren E, equipoise, etc)

thanks for the advice guys.

 

[MN87]

So basically what i am getting from everyone is that even if I continue to use "juice" and post cycle therapy (pct) adventually it is inevitable and i will be testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) weekly anyhow at somepoint.

So if i decide to stay on is a test base dose of 300mg per week correct or sould i b at like 250mg per week?

this is def a tough decision for me.... was thinking of lowering test dose to 250mg per week while "off cycle" and using Proviron and arimidex as i have been as well as Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) then going back "on cycle" with boosting test base back up around 800mg and using whatever to stack.. ie tren E, equipoise, etc)

thanks for the advice guys.

No, they're saying that chronic abuse increases the probability of going on TRT. Nobody is saying you are doomed either way... although I feel that you want them to tell you that so you can continue to do what you're doing.

 

[AndroSport]

I ended up with the REQUIREMENT to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life at a young age from screwing around with stuff before i really learned how everything works and before i should have been touching any of this stuff... even after a few years off i was vey low on natural test and must be on a low dose forever.

regarding your 2nd proposed cycle you say teen & eq... are you saying you would drop the test during this 2nd cycle? i think you should keep the base dose if nothing else.

 

[justin h]

Do you think it's ok to not come off? You gotta let your body recover. Time on=time off. I take it your not getting bloodwork? You have to be kidding right, not coming off. This is one of the most fucking retarted threads I've contributed to. I still can't beleive your serious. You are just kidding right? testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in no time.

 

[Iron1234]

Do you think it's ok to not come off? You gotta let your body recover. Time on=time off. I take it your not getting bloodwork? You have to be kidding right, not coming off. This is one of the most fucking retarted threads I've contributed to. I still can't beleive your serious. You are just kidding right? testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in no time.

This one almost beats the guy who said "Idk how much test to use so Ive just been drawing back some test and injecting it and seeing how it goes" From a previous thread this week. Educate yourself <-- Best fellow newbie advice I can give you.

 

[BigPeanuts00]

I ended up with the REQUIREMENT to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life at a young age from screwing around with stuff before i really learned how everything works and before i should have been touching any of this stuff... even after a few years off i was vey low on natural test and must be on a low dose forever.

regarding your 2nd proposed cycle you say teen & eq... are you saying you would drop the test during this 2nd cycle? i think you should keep the base dose if nothing else.

NO would be keeping the test and stacking tren and eq.

 

[BigPeanuts00]

Do you think it's ok to not come off? You gotta let your body recover. Time on=time off. I take it your not getting bloodwork? You have to be kidding right, not coming off. This is one of the most fucking retarted threads I've contributed to. I still can't beleive your serious. You are just kidding right? testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in no time.

Well trying to figure out if its ok or not to come off... plan to post cycle therapy (pct) and come off but was told by several individuals that you can drop dose to a low test dose weekly and continue arimidex and proviron and maintain gains and stay at low dose for say =time was on heavy cycle and then go back on a "cycle dose of test" thought i would throw that out here and see what you guys had to say before I did so..

Did my last pin saturday and was deciding if I would drop to a weekly dose of 250mg test per week or stay off and start clomid in 2 weeks along with hcg.

However the sticky on post cycle therapy (pct) here does not really specify if I should start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) now other than it says to stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 4 days before my clomid. So being that i havent started Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at this point should I wait till I start my next cycle to use hcg? and jus use my clomid and arimidex?

Some of this post cycle therapy (pct) stuff is a little confusing and you can really only learn from guys that have used before.

thanks again for the help guys..

 

[justin h]

You shut your bodys natural test production down when you cycle. Just because you lower the dose doesn't mean your body comes close to recovering. Whatever good luck.

 

[Chi23]

you can cruise on a low dose of test but as everyone else is saying it could likely lead to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) from being shutdown for so long

 

[Hrad]

Quite simply as long as you aren't going pro you have no reason not to come off

 

[MN87]

Well trying to figure out if its ok or not to come off... plan to pct and come off but was told by several individuals that you can drop dose to a low test dose weekly and continue arimidex and proviron and maintain gains and stay at low dose for say =time was on heavy cycle and then go back on a "cycle dose of test" thought i would throw that out here and see what you guys had to say before I did so..

Did my last pin saturday and was deciding if I would drop to a weekly dose of 250mg test per week or stay off and start clomid in 2 weeks along with hcg.

However the sticky on pct here does not really specify if I should start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) now other than it says to stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 4 days before my clomid. So being that i havent started Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at this point should I wait till I start my next cycle to use hcg? and jus use my clomid and arimidex?

Some of this pct stuff is a little confusing and you can really only learn from guys that have used before.

thanks again for the help guys..

If you plan on staying "off" (well, the way you define off is a low test dose, but basically you mean that you won't be running any huge stacks/blast) for the same amount of time as your actual cycle, then definitely come off man. Do a PCT and stay natural for the same time period. I think that would be better than running a low test dose... as far as maintaining your gains, you can do that with a good PCT, you don't need to run test at 200 or anything to do that.

If for whatever reason you are extremely apathetic to the thought of going on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) eventually (test injections for the rest of your life to counter naturally low test levels), then really none of this shit even matters and you can do whatever (to an extent). But if the thought of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) does not appeal to you, then definitely come off dude.

Either way dude, if you plan on running low dose test for the same amount as your cycle length was, definitely come off and do PCT! Seriously!

 

[BigPeanuts00]

If you plan on staying "off" (well, the way you define off is a low test dose, but basically you mean that you won't be running any huge stacks/blast) for the same amount of time as your actual cycle, then definitely come off man. Do a post cycle therapy (pct) and stay natural for the same time period. I think that would be better than running a low test dose... as far as maintaining your gains, you can do that with a good post cycle therapy (pct), you don't need to run test at 200 or anything to do that.

If for whatever reason you are extremely apathetic to the thought of going on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) eventually (test injections for the rest of your life to counter naturally low test levels), then really none of this shit even matters and you can do whatever (to an extent). But if the thought of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) does not appeal to you, then definitely come off dude.

Either way dude, if you plan on running low dose test for the same amount as your cycle length was, definitely come off and do post cycle therapy (pct)! Seriously!

Ok I have decided to come off and post cycle therapy (pct) with the advice I have got here in this discussion..

So I am going to wait two weeks and start clomid for 4 weeks at 50/50/50/50 (should this be 50mg ED or EOD?) and continue amiridex at .5mg EOD (Is this a good post cycle therapy (pct)?)

Should I start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after the clomid or wait till I start my next cycle?