Cycle 2

[0tj0]

My goals are strength and size but with quality muscle and little water gain. Did a test E cycle with minimal sides other than water retention.

Been training since high school. Recently did some adjusting to the diet thanks to some reading of 3J threads so its very much in check.

Stats:
25 yrs old
5'11"
188lbs
9% bf

Cycle:
Tbol 50mgs: Week 1-4
Sust 500mgs: Week 1-5
Test C 500mgs: Week 6-15
Proviron 50mgs: Week 8-15

PCT starting week 17:
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

I have enough Sust to do 1000mgs the first week which I am considering doing. The Sust injections will be EOD and the Cyp will be twice a week. I will also have enough Arimidex that I can add it at anytime but I am hoping the provirion will keep a lot of the water off.

Any big holes in this? Anything I missed? Thanks!

 

[crackfox]

Looks pretty solid bro.

Only things i would consider tweaking would be just running Test cyp the 1-15, and maybe starting the proviron earlier. Also Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ?

Good luck !

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

I agree. Drop the sus bro. Sus for 5 weeks isnt the best way to use it. Just run test e. No reason to jack your levels all up and frontloading is worthless.

 

[0tj0]

I agree. Drop the sus bro. Sus for 5 weeks isnt the best way to use it. Just run test e. No reason to jack your levels all up and frontloading is worthless.

I can do that. Itl save me money anyway.

As for the proviron how much earlier should I start? Like right after the tbol is done?

Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) really needed? I can get it I just figured I bounced back ok last time so I wasnt gonna mess with it

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

I can do that. Itl save me money anyway.

As for the proviron how much earlier should I start? Like right after the tbol is done?

Is HCG really needed? I can get it I just figured I bounced back ok last time so I wasnt gonna mess with it

you can start the proviron anytime you want. Its just icing on the cake. It works well with test so if you wanted to you can run it your entire cycle.

as far as hcg if you want kids in the future i would run it during the cycle but if you dont then the only thing I would use it for is recovery after the cycle. Its up to you on that one

 

[Mrdeb]

Hey man jsut take 2x250 test enth a week and 50mg masterolone (proviron) eod and for ptc run one inj gonadotropin (pregnyl or hcg) after finish cycle and clomid after 2 weeks for 3 weeks 100/50/50

 

[balboa270]

Hey man jsut take 2x250 test enth a week and 50mg masterolone (proviron) eod and for ptc run one inj gonadotropin (pregnyl or hcg) after finish cycle and clomid after 2 weeks for 3 weeks 100/50/50

WTF?????????

 

[0tj0]

WTF?????????

hahahaha. I felt like your sig fit right in with your post!

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

cmon guys be nice to the newbs!!

 

[0tj0]

cmon guys be nice to the newbs!!

ha. sorry sorry. I really do appritiate all input. Even from newbs!!

Actually about his post. Can Prov be ran EOD?

And Im going with Cyp because Ive read usually the only noticeable diffrence is price... and its the cheaper!

 

[crackfox]

ha. sorry sorry. I really do appritiate all input. Even from newbs!!

Actually about his post. Can Prov be ran EOD?

And Im going with Cyp because Ive read usually the only noticeable diffrence is price... and its the cheaper!

Good choice man, you will enjoy the cyp.

Im not sure about EOD, i hear 50 mg ED is the way to go.

waiting for a more experienced user to confirm

 

[Phatbastard]

cmon guys be nice to the newbs!!

LMFAO that did not just come out of YOUR mouth did it?

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

LMFAO that did not just come out of YOUR mouth did it?

oh yes it did!!!! My sig says it all brotha!

op....I would run the prov ed

 

[MeatHead96]

Agreed just do the cyp and drop the sust.

 

[0tj0]

Agreed just do the cyp and drop the sust.

Ya I decided to drop the Sust for Cyp the whole way through.

Wat about the Adex though. Would I benifit from putting it in my PCT?

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

Ya I decided to drop the Sust for Cyp the whole way through.

Wat about the Adex though. Would I benifit from putting it in my PCT?

aromasin would be best for post cycle therapy (pct) but arimidex will work as well. Just remember with adex that at the 2 week mark of your post cycle therapy (pct) you need to cut your dose in half for the remainder of your post cycle therapy (pct). This will help with estro rebound