Cycle suggestions for 2nd cycle

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Irish87

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Going running my second cycle next week,
Plan on running test cyp 250mg x2 a week for 12 weeks
On it's own and running pct of nova for 30 days 14 days after last pin
My question is what's best Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run with it

My last cycle was test cyp 250mg x2 a week for 6 weeks and dbol 2x a day for 6weeks no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and 14 days after last pin I did 30 days of nova

Appreciate any help
Also should I run an oral with test or can I just roll with test on it's own

Stats
158ibs
Age 26
Bf 15%
height 5'8
 
Irish87 said:
Going running my second cycle next week,
Plan on running test cyp 250mg x2 a week for 12 weeks
On it's own and running pct of nova for 30 days 14 days after last pin
My question is what's best Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run with it

My last cycle was test cyp 250mg x2 a week for 6 weeks and dbol 2x a day for 6weeks no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and 14 days after last pin I did 30 days of nova

Appreciate any help
Also should I run an oral with test or can I just roll with test on it's own

Stats
158ibs
Age 26
Bf 15%
height 5'8
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first cycle should have been a test only cycle for 12 weeks with Test E or Test C so yes you can roll with test on its own.
also how long ago did you finish your first cycle's post cycle therapy (pct)? because the protocol is "cycle+time between cycle and pct+pct= time off before next cycle"
 
I finished my last pct end of April so I'm well over that rule of thumb...
I never ran any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) last cycle but had no issues... Would you recommend jacking up my dose to 750 3 times a week or is that over kill being a newbie to d roid world...what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should I run
 
Irish87 said:
I finished my last pct end of April so I'm well over that rule of thumb...
I never ran any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) last cycle but had no issues... Would you recommend jacking up my dose to 750 3 times a week or is that over kill being a newbie to d roid world...what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should I run
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your first cycle with cyp was too short so no don't up the dosage.
500mg per week for 12 weeks and i would suggest an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) yes...arimidex or aromasin. Read the stickies brother. you will find dosages for these and your pct protocol and the cycle for beginners which i suggest you run.
I think you need to read up a little more brother before you cycle again. Just my opinion...
 
 
No problem bro I appreciate your help,..
Do you think I will see a big difference running 12 weeks instead of 6... Last cycle I started 142ibs went as far as 173ibs and dropped to 156 ibs after I was finished cycle including pct
 
Irish87 said:
No problem bro I appreciate your help,..
Do you think I will see a big difference running 12 weeks instead of 6... Last cycle I started 142ibs went as far as 173ibs and dropped to 156 ibs after I was finished cycle including pct
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a lot of it was water weight bro. DBol bloat, especially if you didn't run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (aids in water weight reduction due to elevated estrogen levels). And a long ester like Test C should be run for at least 12 weeks. If you used test P you can get by with 8 but most recommend 10 weeks for test P...you should really look into getting bloodwork done before, during, and 3 weeks after PCT to see where all your levels are. Monitoring blood work is the best way to know how much of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to use. Use too much and you can crush your E2 levels, which is not good at all. You want estrogen, but not too much...

and never go passed 6 weeks with orals...and when orals are involved you need liver supplements. NAC being one of the best. Milk thistle is bullshit.
 
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Honestly best advice i can give you is to read ALL the stickies and especially the threads I've listed for you.
I have a feeling your diet isn't as great as it should be so I would put off this cycle and invest the money in a diet coach. See how well you can progress with a proper STRICT diet and proper training.
And get bloodwork done now to see where you are from your last cycle. You never mentioned what dosage of Nolva you used for PCT and you didnt mention any clomid for pct or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle. Lots to learn still

After you have been dieting and made substantial progress then look into cycling. I'd say wait at least another year to build up as much knowledge as possible.
There are a lot of things missing from your first cycle brother.

best of luck
 
Ok I will take your suggestions on board for sure plan on getting bloods done Tomor after work. I will post my results when I get them because I really don't know what levels are good or not as I said I'm a new to this...
Plan on reading up on links during weekend
Don't plan on running any oral this time just test for the 12
 
Irish87 said:
Ok I will take your suggestions on board for sure plan on getting bloods done Tomor after work. I will post my results when I get them because I really don't know what levels are good or not as I said I'm a new to this...
Plan on reading up on links during weekend
Don't plan on running any oral this time just test for the 12
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sorry for the multiple posts...I always forget something after i finish a post lol
But one weekend of reading isn't enough my friend but its your body

best of luck
 
10mg nova for 30 days...
I appreciate what your saying about diet etc without cycle but IMO it takes forever to see any results !
 
Irish87 said:
10mg nova for 30 days...
I appreciate what your saying about diet etc without cycle but IMO it takes forever to see any results !
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the forever results are the best ones and it might take too long because your diet wasn't as on point as you thought

3jdiet@gmail.com

email him brother. He knows his shit...best investment I've made towards my training so far.
 
Oh ok must read up on that also I guess... I'm coming from ireland where bodybuilding isn't big and it's what I've always Wanted to get into and have been training for last year and a half Nd only results I've seen was when I cycled even though I really think my diet is on par to what it should be... Where is this guy based out of?
 
you have been given good advice... i am going to do you one more step and lay it all out for you because i think it will really benefit you... you didn't even give cyp a chance to start working on your last cycle... the esters were just starting to build and get going at week 6... you cut it way too short, basically stopping before it even began... here is a complete cycle WITH pct... your pct is very incomplete as that is the most important part of the cycle...

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
5-12 hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
13-16 hcgenerate n2bm.com

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com


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ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

Phytoserms and HCGenerate
can be used in place of the Unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock

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