Cycle Timing

[TheDarkHalf]

So I have everything lined up for my cycle which is going to be Test C @ 500mg for 15 weeks and Var for the last 4 weeks

Would it be better to use the var in the last 4 weeks of injections (weeks 12-15)? or could I run the var up until post cycle therapy (pct) (start var week 13-16, post cycle therapy (pct) begins in wk 17 regardless)? Just looking to do what's optimal. I'm sure everyone is different, but just curious to hear some thoughts.

 

[halfwit]

I'd run it for 6 weeks if you have enough, but to your question: Even though you will technically still have enough test in your system in the weeks prior to PCT, your hormone levels are on the decline and I like to play things conservatively. I'd just run it in the last weeks while you're still pinning. I don't think you'll necessarily notice a difference either way, but it just "feels" safer that way to me.

My .02c

 

[TheDarkHalf]

I'd run it for 6 weeks if you have enough, but to your question: Even though you will technically still have enough test in your system in the weeks prior to PCT, your hormone levels are on the decline and I like to play things conservatively. I'd just run it in the last weeks while you're still pinning. I don't think you'll necessarily notice a difference either way, but it just "feels" safer that way to me.

My .02c

Unfortunately I only have enough for 25 days I do have some Winstrol (winny) on hand....and I know everyone in the world hates on that stuff but I am very tempted to throw toss it in. Only have 25 pills of that too. I went conservative on my last order as it is a new source for me so I wanted to test the waters.

Thanks for your .02 and quick reply. I was going to wait until after memorial day to start my cycle....but I might load up a 23g and pin it tonight

 

[dirtdogg22]

last cycle I ran var 4 weeks up until post cycle therapy (pct). Seemed to lean out more

 

[MeatHead96]

Unfortunately I only have enough for 25 days I do have some Winstrol (winny) on hand....and I know everyone in the world hates on that stuff but I am very tempted to throw toss it in. Only have 25 pills of that too. I went conservative on my last order as it is a new source for me so I wanted to test the waters.

Thanks for your .02 and quick reply. I was going to wait until after memorial day to start my cycle....but I might load up a 23g and pin it tonight

Winny is OK. It does dry my joints up a lot but gives a nice dry look while your on it and I had some strength gains with it at 75mg a day. If I were you I would do one there first 4wks and one the last 4wks (two of which will be the weeks waiting for test to clear to start PCT). I think that would make the best use of your compounds.

 

[TheDarkHalf]

Winny is OK. It does dry my joints up a lot but gives a nice dry look while your on it and I had some strength gains with it at 75mg a day. If I were you I would do one there first 4wks and one the last 4wks (two of which will be the weeks waiting for test to clear to start PCT). I think that would make the best use of your compounds.

Well to be honest, I'm going to run tbol on the front end and probably just stack the Winstrol (winny) and the var the last 4 weeks. I only have 25 50mg tabs of each so that's probably what I'll end up doing. 6-8 weeks off in between the orals with some cycle support products during that break.

 

[halfwit]

Unfortunately I only have enough for 25 days I do have some Winstrol (winny) on hand....and I know everyone in the world hates on that stuff but I am very tempted to throw toss it in. Only have 25 pills of that too. I went conservative on my last order as it is a new source for me so I wanted to test the waters.

Thanks for your .02 and quick reply. I was going to wait until after memorial day to start my cycle....but I might load up a 23g and pin it tonight

I'm not a big fan of Winstrol (winny) unless you have REALLY low bodyfat and can take advantage of the particular properties of the drug. As Meathead mentioned, it can be murder on the joints as it draws the water from your tissues. I totally understand on the limited supply of anavar and 4 weeks is fine, just shorter than I feel is optimal.

Well to be honest, I'm going to run tbol on the front end and probably just stack the Winstrol (winny) and the var the last 4 weeks. I only have 25 50mg tabs of each so that's probably what I'll end up doing. 6-8 weeks off in between the orals with some cycle support products during that break.

Man, three orals in one cycle is pushing it in my opinion as they're all liver toxic and will take their toll on your body. You know your body far more than we do, but I hope you have some really quality liver supps if you plan on going this route. A blood test might not be a bad idea either...

 

[TheDarkHalf]

I'm not a big fan of Winstrol (winny) unless you have REALLY low bodyfat and can take advantage of the particular properties of the drug. As Meathead mentioned, it can be murder on the joints as it draws the water from your tissues. I totally understand on the limited supply of anavar and 4 weeks is fine, just shorter than I feel is optimal.

Man, three orals in one cycle is pushing it in my opinion as they're all liver toxic and will take their toll on your body. You know your body far more than we do, but I hope you have some really quality liver supps if you plan on going this route. A blood test might not be a bad idea either...

Yeah I really am on the fence about it for the reasons you've mentioned. I would feel more comfortable if I had a larger window and a couple more weeks to take off in between the orals and run liver support. It's a tight window so what's really going to be the deciding factor will be how my physique is progressing at that point. My body fat is not super low. I would say 15%ish.

I handle orals fairly well..and I do have about 5-6 bottles of quality liver support supplements in my cabinet. I used to be a straight up prohormone junkie...one cycle I ran m14add (converts to dbol) bridged to a low dose of SD and Dieselbolan (DMZ and MLMG) for 6-8 weeks.

 

[MeatHead96]

Well to be honest, I'm going to run tbol on the front end and probably just stack the Winstrol (winny) and the var the last 4 weeks. I only have 25 50mg tabs of each so that's probably what I'll end up doing. 6-8 weeks off in between the orals with some cycle support products during that break.

That sounds good. Stacking Winstrol (winny) and var should be legit.

 

[TheDarkHalf]

That sounds good. Stacking Winstrol (winny) and var should be legit.

that's kind of what I was thinking....I'm not running them near as long as 6 weeks and at moderate doses...I would expect them to complement each other very well. But like I said I am still on the fence. I'll make the call when the time comes. If I need it and I feel like my body can handle it i'll do it....otherwise i'm going to save it

 

[MeatHead96]

that's kind of what I was thinking....I'm not running them near as long as 6 weeks and at moderate doses...I would expect them to complement each other very well. But like I said I am still on the fence. I'll make the call when the time comes. If I need it and I feel like my body can handle it i'll do it....otherwise i'm going to save it

Right, I've never stacked the two but I have heard that they complement each-other very well. As long as your liver can handle it...