Thanks Gator, impressive resume. thanks for the response. As far as stats, i'm 24, 6'4", 228 lbs. bf% is roughly i'd say between 15-18% (hopefully not more

) I haven't had it check in a wwhile. If you can't tell, i am just getting into lifting on a more serious basis. I've done sports in high school, but havent' been back to the gym since. I'm trying to get a little more cut up for the summer. Your def right about diet. I'm trying to focus on eating better now that i'm going to the gym daily. When i wrote suppplements before i meant more research type supplements like ECA or there are some eother things i've been reading about also. Let me know what you guys think.