Emergency - urgently need help with pct

[Lachdanga]

Hey guys, sorry for the needy first post but its an emergency. I stopped an 8 week 750mg test E cycle 3 weeks ago and have just starting taking pct's.

I didnt use hcg, I was planning on doing a nolvadex only 40/40/20/20 pct, but On day 3 of nolvadex 40mg a day I crashed hard physically and mentally. Zero energy or libido, mental confusion, extreme difficulty concentrating and short term memory loss. This is scaring the fuck out of me, I've been unable to go to work this week and I'm not sure whether its the nolvadex causing it or test levels crashing. Apparently brain fog is a rare nolvadex side effect from what I've read.

I'm thinking of dropping the dose to 20/20/20/20 and adding 50/50/50/50 clomid alongside it to boost my test back. (Not 100mg due to sides?)

So in a nutshell, is 20mg nolva and 50mg clomid a day enough for a 4 Week pct, and should I just drop nolva entirely to alleviate risk to my brain. (Or is it due to low test?)

Thanks

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

That's a short cycle. You're gonna be OK. Probably won't take long to bounce back.
Run the clomid at 100 the first week, 50 the next two, and 25 week 4. If you're concerned about the nolva I'd lower it for sanity's sake.
Why weren't you taking an AI on cycle? Your estrogen levels are probably acting pretty crazy too.

 

[Lachdanga]

Ok, will do thanks. When could I expect clomid to start raising my test levels?
And I took arimidex occasionally when I had gyno symptoms on cycle

 

[Shovel]

What's the emergency? Sounds like you had an anxiety attack. Spend a few hours reading the huge amounts of great information on this site, then ask.

 

[Lachdanga]

No, I've had these problems for about 4 days now. Can barely get out of bed and I'm so out of it that I'm having trouble stringing sentences together. Hoping that when my test levels rise my mind will clear up. I can deal with having no energy but the cognitive side effects are scary, especially when they're impacting my job

 

[Teutonic]

I ve been bed ridden with depression/anxiety etc...

And at no time then could I have formed the sentences typed much less the paragraph u opened up with....nor would I have cared too.

You ve crashed. Man up, get up and out of the damn bed, slap the shit out of ur self, quit waiting for a majic bullet to make it all okay...today...cuz u cant crush ur hpta and drop the exo test and not feel it. How bad we react to no exo test and waiting for pct to take us back to whatever level we re capable of attaining is what seperates the men from the boy s.

Get ur ass back to work first.
Then the gym.
U ll live.

Repeat-------U cannot go from superman cycle to no exo test w-o feeling bad to some degree. Some pct drugs add to mental maladies, again variably to each person. Get over this and get back into a pos. routine. Ur making a mountain out of a speed bump.

 

[appleton111]

Youll do fine, dont worry, just keep your diet good and fruitful.

 

[juced_porkchop]

1 dont do less that 12 week cycle or its a waste IMO
2 when recovering you will have some weeks of feeling like this, you are shut down and its to be expected
3 do a clomid and tamox pct. 50mg clomi ed and 20mg tamox ed for 4-5 weeks IMO.

might as well do 12-14 week cycles because recovery is not going to differ much and it makes the cycle 2x more effective , first few weeks of cycles is whatever... mehh



good luck!

 

[tx045]

You could always blast some hcg then start with your pct

 

[Lachdanga]

Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated. Finally cleared up after about 5 days.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

That's a short cycle. You're gonna be OK. Probably won't take long to bounce back.
Run the clomid at 100 the first week, 50 the next two, and 25 week 4. If you're concerned about the nolva I'd lower it for sanity's sake.
Why weren't you taking an AI on cycle? Your estrogen levels are probably acting pretty crazy too.

Wy run 100mg of clomid? Your just asking for side effects, and possibly permanent side effects. No reason to ever go over 49 mg in a single dose of clomiphene.

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Wy run 100mg of clomid? Your just asking for side effects, and possibly permanent side effects. No reason to ever go over 49 mg in a single dose of clomiphene.

I haven't heard of this.
I always start my pct with 100mg the first two or three days, then go down to 50, and eventually 25.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Yea higher dosages can cause side effects, even permanent ones sometimes. Studies have shown 49mg is the max output so no need to go higher than that.

 

[Milton]

Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated. Finally cleared up after about 5 days.

Good to know now you know how to do it right!