AudioMaker
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Hey everyone,
I posted this in the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum, but I'd like to hear from the guys who frequent the Anabolic forum.
Here is my post from the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum (so I don't have to retype where I'm at:
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Hi All,
I'm new to the forum and this is my first post here....thanks for having me!
I've signed on to a couple other forums, and googled my brains out for month, but I'm still feeling like i have some unanswered questions. If you can help me, I'd sure appreciate it, and please forgive me for not searching the forums for the answers because my brain is just fried on trying to find the answers that pertain to me.
First, my stat's...
I'm 45 years old.
I'm 5' 10" tall
I weigh about 240lbs right now with a stocky build (thick rib cage, bones, shorter legs...etc)
I have a "4 pack" at 200lbs, I look "average" at 220lbs, and I'm an old fat blob at 240lbs.
My body normally gains muscle fast when I lift heavy, although it's been a few years since I hit the gym hard. I have a good amount of muscle and am very strong, but look "soft" at best right now.
I am prone to weight gain (fat) unless I'm actually on a diet to control this.
I have no history of erectile disfunction, or baldness.
I tried a self prescribed low-dose GH therapy for 5 months until i ran out of money last year, otherwise I am new to hormone adjustments.
*****
Ok, now where I'm at...
Some friends of mine locally are mild bodybuilders, and I've received:
8X 250mg/ml of test'-E
8X 200mg/ml of deca
******
My goal is to transform my body from this soft 45 year old, to a leaner but not overly sized harder body. With my build, it doesn't take much muscle gain to look "big".
I also want to feel younger, and have the benefits of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at the same time.
I have started a 250mg/week of test-E (125mg Mon/Thurs), and I have been on this for 5 weeks while doing a "at home" warmup getting ready for the gym (sucks when you have to work out just to get into the shape to work out in public).
Since week two of 250mg of test-E, my libido is ridiculous, and while I can see it would be fun and make one feel younger, my girlfriend is suffering libido problems from a hormone laced IUD, so needing to "relieve myself" 3 times a day when my girlfriend is on a schedule closer to 3X a month is...well... you get it.
As you can calculate, at the current dose of test', I have about 5 more weeks to get through the first bottle.
I figure 5 more weeks of home workout and I'll be ready for the gym, so the timing works out to start the deca at that point (one bottle of test down).
At that point, I plan to add the deca to the test at 200mg/week (1ml) to make it simple. That will end up at 1ml of test-E per week, and 1ml of deca per week, or put another way.... 1 pin of a 50/50 mix twice a week that results in a 250mg test/200mg deca stack.
******
Now here's my questions...
First, I think I'm likely to stay on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) part of this routine indefinitely.
What I'm not understanding is if I could (or should) stay on the deca indefinitely, or cycle it. I don't know what risks I'd be looking at or benefits.
On the other hand, if I were to stay on the test', but cycle the deca, I don't know how to cycle it and what sort of post cycle therapy (pct) I'd be looking at while staying on test'?
I'm trying to keep this simple. Build up, get lean, and stay that way. I want to look like I go to the gym a lot, but not like I'm obsessed.
I'd prefer to keep the amount of sup's and hormone combinations to a minimum so I can stick with it (I'm not one of these guys that can take 10 different things at 3 different times....etc.)
I'm also wondering if the deca will bring my libido back into a realistic range, and what will happen if I cycle it? I mean... can I expect every time I come off that I'm *too* horny again?
What about adding something like Erase Pro to the mix, or... to the test only, when I'm off deca?
I am concerned about this libido meaning I have too much estrogen, and I think that my body type and history might make me a gyno candidate even though I've never had it (I do have a bit of moobs, but I'm overweight at the moment).
So should I just stay on both...or all 3?
By the way, I can hit the gym and lift heavy about 2X a week, and do home gym (light weights, total gym, pushups, P90X, treadmill..etc.) about another 2X per week.
Any advice would really be appreciated.
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Since posted that, I've been all over the net looking for answers. Through that journey, I'm now wondering if I should be trading out the Deca for EQ? Ultimately I'm looking to get lean since growing muscle is never a problem for me, but getting lean is. As I've stated above, I plan to stay on Test-E indefinitely. I might do an "off vs on" dosage change but I'll be staying on it. Whether it's Deca or EQ (or whatever ends up being the best), I'd prefer something mild that I can stay on as long as possible. My workouts are consistent, but not "hard" since I'm really looking at a this whole thing like a lifestyle change more than a focused cycle. Don't get me wrong, I want to grow, but over time is OK with me, with longer lasting results. Being 45, it's now harder to grow and harder to get lean than it was 10 years ago and I'm needing some help (chemical) to make my results positive enough to keep me working at it.
The end of my test-only cycle is coming up (even though I don't consider something I'll be on for at least a couple years a "cycle"), and i think now would be a good time to decide what I should add to it.
Right now, I'm thinking:
250mg of Test-E/week (staying on... could up the dose for cycling)
200mg of Deca/week (or Equipoise)....not sure on the cycling time.
1 Erase Pro ED
(hope to add 20iu/week of GH by July)
My body is handling the test fine at this point (about 6 weeks now). I'm actually liking the libido and would like to keep it, as well as well-being feeling. Still holding fat (including chest). Had a couple emotional moments watching movies by myself, but I'm also mid breakup with my gf of 4 years so I guess I'm prone. I think it would be worse if not for the test honestly.
I think that's about as honest and telling about myself as I can be without any specific questions.
The clock is ticking before I just go ahead and start taking the Test/Deca/Erase stack and I've honestly done as much research as I can to get to this point.
Thoughts?
Many Thanks
Edited to add: Of course even though I'm ultimately looking for a long term consistent solution, I wouldn't mind a jumpstart to looking pretty good since that's going to help with being single after this impending breakup.
I posted this in the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum, but I'd like to hear from the guys who frequent the Anabolic forum.
Here is my post from the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum (so I don't have to retype where I'm at:
******
Hi All,
I'm new to the forum and this is my first post here....thanks for having me!
I've signed on to a couple other forums, and googled my brains out for month, but I'm still feeling like i have some unanswered questions. If you can help me, I'd sure appreciate it, and please forgive me for not searching the forums for the answers because my brain is just fried on trying to find the answers that pertain to me.
First, my stat's...
I'm 45 years old.
I'm 5' 10" tall
I weigh about 240lbs right now with a stocky build (thick rib cage, bones, shorter legs...etc)
I have a "4 pack" at 200lbs, I look "average" at 220lbs, and I'm an old fat blob at 240lbs.
My body normally gains muscle fast when I lift heavy, although it's been a few years since I hit the gym hard. I have a good amount of muscle and am very strong, but look "soft" at best right now.
I am prone to weight gain (fat) unless I'm actually on a diet to control this.
I have no history of erectile disfunction, or baldness.
I tried a self prescribed low-dose GH therapy for 5 months until i ran out of money last year, otherwise I am new to hormone adjustments.
*****
Ok, now where I'm at...
Some friends of mine locally are mild bodybuilders, and I've received:
8X 250mg/ml of test'-E
8X 200mg/ml of deca
******
My goal is to transform my body from this soft 45 year old, to a leaner but not overly sized harder body. With my build, it doesn't take much muscle gain to look "big".
I also want to feel younger, and have the benefits of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at the same time.
I have started a 250mg/week of test-E (125mg Mon/Thurs), and I have been on this for 5 weeks while doing a "at home" warmup getting ready for the gym (sucks when you have to work out just to get into the shape to work out in public).
Since week two of 250mg of test-E, my libido is ridiculous, and while I can see it would be fun and make one feel younger, my girlfriend is suffering libido problems from a hormone laced IUD, so needing to "relieve myself" 3 times a day when my girlfriend is on a schedule closer to 3X a month is...well... you get it.
As you can calculate, at the current dose of test', I have about 5 more weeks to get through the first bottle.
I figure 5 more weeks of home workout and I'll be ready for the gym, so the timing works out to start the deca at that point (one bottle of test down).
At that point, I plan to add the deca to the test at 200mg/week (1ml) to make it simple. That will end up at 1ml of test-E per week, and 1ml of deca per week, or put another way.... 1 pin of a 50/50 mix twice a week that results in a 250mg test/200mg deca stack.
******
Now here's my questions...
First, I think I'm likely to stay on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) part of this routine indefinitely.
What I'm not understanding is if I could (or should) stay on the deca indefinitely, or cycle it. I don't know what risks I'd be looking at or benefits.
On the other hand, if I were to stay on the test', but cycle the deca, I don't know how to cycle it and what sort of post cycle therapy (pct) I'd be looking at while staying on test'?
I'm trying to keep this simple. Build up, get lean, and stay that way. I want to look like I go to the gym a lot, but not like I'm obsessed.
I'd prefer to keep the amount of sup's and hormone combinations to a minimum so I can stick with it (I'm not one of these guys that can take 10 different things at 3 different times....etc.)
I'm also wondering if the deca will bring my libido back into a realistic range, and what will happen if I cycle it? I mean... can I expect every time I come off that I'm *too* horny again?
What about adding something like Erase Pro to the mix, or... to the test only, when I'm off deca?
I am concerned about this libido meaning I have too much estrogen, and I think that my body type and history might make me a gyno candidate even though I've never had it (I do have a bit of moobs, but I'm overweight at the moment).
So should I just stay on both...or all 3?
By the way, I can hit the gym and lift heavy about 2X a week, and do home gym (light weights, total gym, pushups, P90X, treadmill..etc.) about another 2X per week.
Any advice would really be appreciated.
******** end of paste.
Since posted that, I've been all over the net looking for answers. Through that journey, I'm now wondering if I should be trading out the Deca for EQ? Ultimately I'm looking to get lean since growing muscle is never a problem for me, but getting lean is. As I've stated above, I plan to stay on Test-E indefinitely. I might do an "off vs on" dosage change but I'll be staying on it. Whether it's Deca or EQ (or whatever ends up being the best), I'd prefer something mild that I can stay on as long as possible. My workouts are consistent, but not "hard" since I'm really looking at a this whole thing like a lifestyle change more than a focused cycle. Don't get me wrong, I want to grow, but over time is OK with me, with longer lasting results. Being 45, it's now harder to grow and harder to get lean than it was 10 years ago and I'm needing some help (chemical) to make my results positive enough to keep me working at it.
The end of my test-only cycle is coming up (even though I don't consider something I'll be on for at least a couple years a "cycle"), and i think now would be a good time to decide what I should add to it.
Right now, I'm thinking:
250mg of Test-E/week (staying on... could up the dose for cycling)
200mg of Deca/week (or Equipoise)....not sure on the cycling time.
1 Erase Pro ED
(hope to add 20iu/week of GH by July)
My body is handling the test fine at this point (about 6 weeks now). I'm actually liking the libido and would like to keep it, as well as well-being feeling. Still holding fat (including chest). Had a couple emotional moments watching movies by myself, but I'm also mid breakup with my gf of 4 years so I guess I'm prone. I think it would be worse if not for the test honestly.
I think that's about as honest and telling about myself as I can be without any specific questions.
The clock is ticking before I just go ahead and start taking the Test/Deca/Erase stack and I've honestly done as much research as I can to get to this point.
Thoughts?
Many Thanks
Edited to add: Of course even though I'm ultimately looking for a long term consistent solution, I wouldn't mind a jumpstart to looking pretty good since that's going to help with being single after this impending breakup.
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