Ephedrine

you can buy ephedrine hcl and have a cup of coffee - cheaper and pretty well the same difference, minus the aspirin (if you want that too, knock yourself out).
 
there is probably some still on ebay but in the us there is still stacker2 with ephedrine and its pretty good stuff
 
sparklylegwarmers said:
you can buy ephedrine hcl and have a cup of coffee - cheaper and pretty well the same difference, minus the aspirin (if you want that too, knock yourself out).

i was taking ephedrin/kofein but i didn't take aspirin! why aspirine bro?
 
U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra

2 hours ago

By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration has decided to ban the herbal weight-loss supplement ephedra from the marketplace because of concerns about its effects on health, government officials said Tuesday.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson and Food and Drug Administration chief Mark McClellan were to announce the ban at a midday news conference, the officials said, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The ban is likely to be met with litigation from manufacturers who dispute the agency's assertion that ephedra, which was blamed in the death of a professional baseball player earlier this year, is a health risk.

The government ban, one of the first involving a dietary supplement, comes after Thompson this summer urged Congress to rewrite a law that rolled back dietary-supplement regulations and to require manufacturers to acknowledge potential side effects.

Ephedra has been linked to as many as 100 deaths, officials have said. And Congress gathered testimony from families of people who are believed to have died from its side effects. Among those who testified were the parents of Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler, who died during spring training last February while trying to lose weight. Toxicology tests showed ephedra in his system.

Executives of several companies that make ephedra-based products have said that studies have proven that they are safe when used properly.

"Anyone who has read our label knows that we go to great lengths to inform our customers about the proper use of our products," said Russell Schreck, chief executive officer of San Diego-based nutritional supplement-maker Metabolife International. "We make it quite clear on our label that the ephedra products are not to be sold or used by minors and that customers with certain pre-existing medical conditions should 'consult a physician before product use'."

But several scientists said that it was impossible to prove whether ephedra was safe because studies screen out participants who have health problems _ the people most likely to be hurt by the product.

The General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative arm, looked into the issue and found many people who reported problems had followed the label's instructions.

The FDA had proposed warning labels and dosage limits for dietary supplements with ephedra back in 1997, but then withdrew the proposal after complaints from the industry and members of Congress.

In 2001, the National Football League banned its players from using ephedra as a dietary supplement.
 
BoneKiller said:
i was taking ephedrin/kofein but i didn't take aspirin! why aspirine bro?

ECA=ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin

you can make your own if you want. i know jen only makes herself EC, combining ephedrine hcl and coffee.




and my question about the ephedra ban... is it legal to have the ephedrine hcl on its own but not in the ECA forumulation? i know that this is the way it works in canada.
 
they still sell ephedrine base products in canada. Local supermarkets with health/pharmacy section still have the old hydroxycut, if you know someone in canada just ask them to buy and ship it to you
 
Tiny said:
they still sell ephedrine base products in canada. Local supermarkets with health/pharmacy section still have the old hydroxycut, if you know someone in canada just ask them to buy and ship it to you

very hard to find bro...
its illegal in canada to have ephedra mixed with stimulants such as caffeine, and has been for some time. most stock is gone
 
Tiny said:
they still sell ephedrine base products in canada. Local supermarkets with health/pharmacy section still have the old hydroxycut, if you know someone in canada just ask them to buy and ship it to you


You know, I was in a supp shop last week that had a ton of ephedra based fat burners. I was talking to the guy about the illegality of it and he said that he has absolutely no problems getting them. So, that certainly is good news.:)
 
interesting, im going to have a look around... anything left must be old stock from distributors
 
doggy said:
interesting, im going to have a look around... anything left must be old stock from distributors
I have had no luck up here.....I,ve had to outsource for it
It is the good stuff 25mg white crosses,hcl.... no fillers like guafinestine in the 8mg versions..
 
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