DMZ
New member
Hello Everyone,
My stats:
Age: 48
Sex: Male
Bodyweight: 169lbs/77kg
Currently building lost muscle after kidney failure.
I am on regular Hemodialysis, and get full blood work done once a month.
Kidneys are slowly coming back online. No other health issues.
Was a high level strength/speed athlete.
The anabolic stack I am using at the moment was the result of a number of government studies done with patients suffering from Chronic Kidney Failure(CKD)
I'll add the links to those studies at the bottom.
Available: Nandrolone Decanoate (250mg/ml), Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (100mg/ml), Sustanon 250 (1ml ampules), Testosterone Enanthate (250mg ampules)
HGH at 4iu per day, before bed, since that is the body's natural time to produce growth hormone, and I feel much better than if I pin it in the morning.
300 tabs of T3 at 25mcg also before bed.
Lots of Arimidex, Clomid, on hand but not needed yet.
A couple of HCG 5000iu ampules, which I will be pinning every other day at 300iu to keep my testicles functioning throughout the cycle.
Steroid use is legal where I live, and everything in this stack is easy to come by locally.
Currently I have been running nandrolone at 400mg/week, Sustanon at 500mg/week, and HGH at 4iu per day; for four weeks.
High intensity gym workouts seven days a week, until I require rest.
I sleep from 11pm to 5am.
No naps in the afternoon - I have not needed them yet.
Currently I am feeling very good throughout the day, and during workouts, etc. Just my physical strength is nowhere near what it used to be, as a result of the CKD.
But I can do most types of exercise. It really feels as if I'm beginning from scratch again.
Goals: lose the fat gained during down time, and build up 15kg/33lbs of muscle over the coming year. And since I know that HGH functions as an adaptogen, I figure it should help me adjust to the rigors of physical training more rapidly as well.
I did two cycles previously, many years ago. The first was after a major car accident, where I was bedridden for over half a year. And the second time was when I tore some tendons in my foot.
Both times the use was for healing/recovery and getting my functionality back.
My questions are:
1. For fat loss and muscle building, is there a difference in the ideal dosage of HGH for either goal?
2. I work out in the evening, and can add a second workout per day.
I have also been advised to pin the HGH 30 minutes before a fasted workout to maximize the fat burning effects.
3. Is it possible to do both: fat loss and muscle building with the stack I have available?
I am open to any suggestions and changes to my approach and or training.
Thanks for reading.
Links to government studies:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
jamanetwork.com
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
jasn.asnjournals.org
My stats:
Age: 48
Sex: Male
Bodyweight: 169lbs/77kg
Currently building lost muscle after kidney failure.
I am on regular Hemodialysis, and get full blood work done once a month.
Kidneys are slowly coming back online. No other health issues.
Was a high level strength/speed athlete.
The anabolic stack I am using at the moment was the result of a number of government studies done with patients suffering from Chronic Kidney Failure(CKD)
I'll add the links to those studies at the bottom.
Available: Nandrolone Decanoate (250mg/ml), Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (100mg/ml), Sustanon 250 (1ml ampules), Testosterone Enanthate (250mg ampules)
HGH at 4iu per day, before bed, since that is the body's natural time to produce growth hormone, and I feel much better than if I pin it in the morning.
300 tabs of T3 at 25mcg also before bed.
Lots of Arimidex, Clomid, on hand but not needed yet.
A couple of HCG 5000iu ampules, which I will be pinning every other day at 300iu to keep my testicles functioning throughout the cycle.
Steroid use is legal where I live, and everything in this stack is easy to come by locally.
Currently I have been running nandrolone at 400mg/week, Sustanon at 500mg/week, and HGH at 4iu per day; for four weeks.
High intensity gym workouts seven days a week, until I require rest.
I sleep from 11pm to 5am.
No naps in the afternoon - I have not needed them yet.
Currently I am feeling very good throughout the day, and during workouts, etc. Just my physical strength is nowhere near what it used to be, as a result of the CKD.
But I can do most types of exercise. It really feels as if I'm beginning from scratch again.
Goals: lose the fat gained during down time, and build up 15kg/33lbs of muscle over the coming year. And since I know that HGH functions as an adaptogen, I figure it should help me adjust to the rigors of physical training more rapidly as well.
I did two cycles previously, many years ago. The first was after a major car accident, where I was bedridden for over half a year. And the second time was when I tore some tendons in my foot.
Both times the use was for healing/recovery and getting my functionality back.
My questions are:
1. For fat loss and muscle building, is there a difference in the ideal dosage of HGH for either goal?
2. I work out in the evening, and can add a second workout per day.
I have also been advised to pin the HGH 30 minutes before a fasted workout to maximize the fat burning effects.
3. Is it possible to do both: fat loss and muscle building with the stack I have available?
I am open to any suggestions and changes to my approach and or training.
Thanks for reading.
Links to government studies:
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Androgens in the anaemia of chronic renal failure - PubMed
Plasma levels of testosterone-like substances (TLS) were depressed in seven patients with chronic renal failure. Intramuscular testosterone (as Sustanon 250 once a week) elevated plasma TLS levels to above normal throughout the week with an initial high peak. Sublingual testosterone produced a...
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Anabolic Effects of Nandrolone Decanoate in Patients Receiving Dialysis
Context Patients receiving dialysis commonly experience malnutrition, reduced muscle mass (sarcopenia), and fatigue for which no effective treatment has been identified. Anabolic steroids are known to increase muscle mass and strength in healthy individuals, but their effect on the sarcopenia...
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Testosterone Replacement Therapy in Chronic Kidney Disease Patients - PubMed
(Background) The aim of our study was to evaluate the efficacy and safety of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in men with chronic kidney disease and hypogonadism on conservative and hemodialysis treatment. (Methods) The studied population consisted of 38 men on hemodialysis (HD), 46 men...
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A role for anabolic steroids in the rehabilitation of patients with COPD? A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized trial - PubMed
In conclusion, a short-term course of ND had an overall positive effect relative to placebo on FFM without expanding extracellular water in patients with COPD. In the total group, the improvements in muscle function and exercise capacity were associated with improvements in erythropoietic...
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Nutritional effect of nandrolone decanoate in predialysis patients with chronic kidney disease - PubMed
Nandrolone decanoate expresses an anabolic effect on LBM without altering the renal function and thus would provide nutritional benefit in predialysis patients with CKD.
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Anabolic effects of nandrolone decanoate in patients receiving dialysis: a randomized controlled trial - PubMed
Treatment with nandrolone for 6 months resulted in a significant increase in LBM associated with functional improvement in patients undergoing dialysis.
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Nutritional effect of nandrolone decanoate in predialysis patients with chronic kidney disease - PubMed
Nandrolone decanoate expresses an anabolic effect on LBM without altering the renal function and thus would provide nutritional benefit in predialysis patients with CKD.
![pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov](/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fcoreutils%2Fnwds%2Fimg%2Ffavicons%2Ffavicon.png&hash=aa98bc79fe6ad3715a991a285ecd8769&return_error=1)
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Growth Hormone Treatment during Hemodialysis in a Randomized Trial Improves Nutrition, Quality of Life, and Cardiovascular Risk
Nutritional markers, such as lean body mass (LBM) and serum albumin, predict outcome in dialysis patients, in whom protein-energy malnutrition is associated with increased morbidity and mortality. The metabolic effects of human growth hormone (hGH) may improve the nutritional and cardiovascular...