EQ and Deca, how much alike?

Powerhouse9

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I know they are similar in structure, and EQ is a better fat burning, get vascular drug. But does EQ help the tendons and joints like Deca at all, or to any degree what so ever?
 
Only thing EQ and Deca have in common is low aromatization, and highly anabolic, I dotn believe they are structurally similar at all.
 
No, EQ does not help the tendons and joints like Deca. I do prefer EQ over Deca because it is not as hard on the body. The effects both have are very similar, although one may hold a little more water on Deca and one may put on just a bit more size. I think the reason many do not like Deca is because of the fact it shuts down the body hard and it takes a while for the body to recover from a Deca cycle.
 
EQ is 99% chemically identical to D-bol!

Deca and EQ are not similar at all...besides being a predominately anabolic steroid.

I love EQ and will never take deca again! HPTA shutdown is horrible to me!
 
LAWNSAVER said:
EQ is 99% chemically identical to D-bol!


True that.

It is basically liquid dbol with a much longer half life.

I have not tried deca yet so I cannot compare the two.
 
EQ doesn't aromatize like dbol though. I hold very little water on eq. I am no chemist so can someone please explain how eq is chemically like dbol? In my experiences the two do very different things.
 
Wartime100 said:
EQ doesn't aromatize like dbol though. I hold very little water on eq. I am no chemist so can someone please explain how eq is chemically like dbol? In my experiences the two do very different things.

EQ is basically the same as dbol, except dbol is obviously 17-aa. This little difference changes the noticable results dramatically. There is a different AR affinity which is why you will experience some sides on dbol that you wont while on eq.

Here is the dbol molecule:

http://www.****************/forum/gallery/14615/f39a0a0033e6d6b49f7aedf0f90f7912.jpg

And here is boldenone (eq):

http://www.****************/forum/gallery/14615/918755fb0fa01b949585789d9ce52729.jpg

BTW, these pics were first posted by Zyg.
 
There you go!

I didnt believe it either...I remember on Elite 3 years ago, we all thought they were brothers!

Oh dont combine deca and eq they are the same...we went with that for about 6 months, until we really looked at the chemical structure and figued out deca was a progestin and EQ was not even close and had no progestin like atributes!
 
LAWNSAVER said:
There you go!

I didnt believe it either...I remember on Elite 3 years ago, we all thought they were brothers!

Oh dont combine deca and eq they are the same...we went with that for about 6 months, until we really looked at the chemical structure and figued out deca was a progestin and EQ was not even close and had no progestin like atributes!

LOL good point. Also, this doesnt mean you shouldnt use eq and dbol in the same cycle either....again they are both effective when used together.
 
That was the point...who cares! We only make 1 A/R...we dont have deca receptors or EQ receptors.

Stack if you want....I like to, but to be honest, why not just take 1000mg of test a week for 10 weeks and throw in some A-dex?

I think you would get similar results to 500mgs of test and 4-600mg of EQ for 10 weeks, but save a few bucks!
 
LAWNSAVER said:
That was the point...who cares! We only make 1 A/R...we dont have deca receptors or EQ receptors.

Stack if you want....I like to, but to be honest, why not just take 1000mg of test a week for 10 weeks and throw in some A-dex?

I think you would get similar results to 500mgs of test and 4-600mg of EQ for 10 weeks, but save a few bucks!

Lawn is my new hero. I have long been an advocate of simplicity when it comes to cycling...which is why I respect people like gwl9dta4 more than most other "gurus" on the various boards.
 
Next Cycle I was planning on Running 750mg Test, 1000mg EQ, 300mg Deca - The Deca is purely for my joints as I've been feeling it lately. Nothing wrong with that right?
 
Paulos said:
Next Cycle I was planning on Running 750mg Test, 1000mg EQ, 300mg Deca - The Deca is purely for my joints as I've been feeling it lately. Nothing wrong with that right?


I dont see why the test and eq wont make you retain enough water to lube your joints!

How big are you? How many cycles? How old?


I am 30 and have been cycling for a little over 6 years with about 12 cycles under my belt!

I have never taken those types of doses. I think going over 600mg of EQ in a stack is need needed.

I would take 1000mg of Test and 600mg of EQ and buy a few bottles of Glucosamine/chondriton and fix the problem. Deca isnt a cure and sometimes doesnt work. It never worked for me for my joints, but it did get rid of a testicle I didnt want( Joking about the part that I didnt want it! ).

Although I did lose a nut to atrophy from deca, my favorite cycle to date was 500mg of test and 200mg each of EQ and Deca for 10 weeks. I put on about 14lbs, while losing 6% BF. It was like a 26% LBM gain and it was my 6th cycle!

If you need to take those doese to grow, you need to re-think your diet!!
 
Paulos, I dont know how your joints feel....but I would agree with lawnsaver on one point. I would switch the test dose to 1000mg and keep the eq at 600. If you want to add in deca that seems a-o-k, lord knows many people have done much bigger cycles with minimal sides.

What was your last cycle like?
 
I'm 20, this would be third, one before was Dbol 1-4 @ 30mg, EQ @ 750mg 1-15, Test @ 500mg 1-15...

I'm not too sure on running 1000mg test on my third because hairloss is a problem...750 would be a large step as it is.
 
Paulos said:
I'm 20, this would be third, one before was Dbol 1-4 @ 30mg, EQ @ 750mg 1-15, Test @ 500mg 1-15...

I'm not too sure on running 1000mg test on my third because hairloss is a problem...750 would be a large step as it is.

Ah, good deal. Maybe you should keep the test at 750mg/week and the eq at 600mg/week. It will save you some money and you will get great results. Like I said before, throwing deca in there is your call....at that dose I dont see why not.

BTW, my girlfriend thinks your avatar is nasty. She also says that it has no balls, therefore is not anatomically correct. Sucka.
 
Although I did lose a nut to atrophy from deca, my favorite cycle to date was 500mg of test and 200mg each of EQ and Deca for 10 weeks. I put on about 14lbs, while losing 6% BF. It was like a 26% LBM gain and it was my 6th cycle!


What do you mean by this???
 
dragon06 said:
What do you mean by this???

Exactly what it says!! I got testicular atrophy from deca at only 200mg per week and the nut never grew back, even after mutiple attempts with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and clomid, but my gains were the best I have ever received.

I am not talking about total weight gain, but most productive! I gained weight(14 lbs) and lost fat(6%). I gained about 26lbs of LM.

I was very impressed, but 12 months later I still only had on nut that was full size.
 
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