First Cycle Advice Test Only

[dps]

I'm sorry if this has already been posted but I have been searching and cannot find an answer...

I am planning my first cycle currently and am looking at getting everything into place before I start.

I plan on doing 600mg of Test E only cycle for 12 weeks then use Nolvadex for my PCT at 40 40 20 20 and am unsure wether I need to use Arimidex or something similar when on cycle to prevent gyno. I am obviously unsure if I am prone to gyno with it being my first cycle.

Do you think I should:
A - Do my first cycle and PCT and see how I react so I can see if I am prone to gyno or other side effects so I know for my next cycle.
B - Take Arimidex or alternative regularly through the cycle to be safe
C - Have Arimidex on hand incase I see signs of gyno and then take it to counter act.
D - Any other advice or alternate strategies.


I know this is a pretty moderate cycle so I hopefully wont get many side effects but I want to be safe and avoid any possible sides and have everything in place and a plan before I start.

Thanks for the help and advice in advance.

 

[Roush]

armidex or any AI taken while on cycle is not just about gyno,, its about overall health and keeping your estrogen levels from raising (high estrogen in males causes a wide range of health problems). which it will rise when injecting exogenous testosterone.. so yes, take the time and do more research and look into proper AI protocols.
.25 mg Arimidex EOD may be a good starting point but you should look into that yourself

 

[bigben66]

Yeah, Roush is correct, you need to choose a start point for Arimidex and then adjust when you get your mid-cycle bloods done.

You also need to run Clomid with the Nolvadex as a standard PCT

Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex - 40/40/20/20

I would also recommend running HCG from week 1 of cycle until 3 days before PCT.
2 x 250iu SubQ injections per week should be fine to keep your nuts primed and ready for recovery.

 

[4GKenZy]

Yeah, Roush is correct, you need to choose a start point for Arimidex and then adjust when you get your mid-cycle bloods done.

You also need to run Clomid with the Nolvadex as a standard PCT

Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex - 40/40/20/20

I would also recommend running HCG from week 1 of cycle until 3 days before PCT.
2 x 250iu SubQ injections per week should be fine to keep your nuts primed and ready for recovery.

Clomid is necessary for PCT? How true is this? Because I've read that simply 40/40/20/20 Nolva is fine.
I'm new to this as well.

 

[dps]

Clomid is necessary for PCT? How true is this? Because I've read that simply 40/40/20/20 Nolva is fine.
I'm new to this as well.

I have seen so many debates about this and it seems like no one agrees or can give solid evidence to back up arguments.

 

[dps]

armidex or any AI taken while on cycle is not just about gyno,, its about overall health and keeping your estrogen levels from raising (high estrogen in males causes a wide range of health problems). which it will rise when injecting exogenous testosterone.. so yes, take the time and do more research and look into proper AI protocols.
.25 mg Arimidex EOD may be a good starting point but you should look into that yourself

Thanks for the reply. I have done hours of research but the problem is contrasting opinions on a lot of things. Which is why I decided to post this so I could discuss it with people. I had read that .25mg was a good starting point.

 

[dps]

Yeah, Roush is correct, you need to choose a start point for Arimidex and then adjust when you get your mid-cycle bloods done.

You also need to run Clomid with the Nolvadex as a standard PCT

Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex - 40/40/20/20

I would also recommend running HCG from week 1 of cycle until 3 days before PCT.
2 x 250iu SubQ injections per week should be fine to keep your nuts primed and ready for recovery.

Is there any reason for needing clomid as well as nolvadex for PCT as I have read many debates where people have argued that you need both or that you only need one. Only most people don't back this up with a reason other than that is what they do, which is obviously great if it works for them but it may not work for others. I hope I don't sound condescending, I really appreciate the input from experienced people with much better knowledge than myself.

 

[Megatron28]

Is there any reason for needing clomid as well as voladex for PCT as I have read many debates where people have argued that you need both or that you only need one. Only most people don't back this up with a reason other than that is what they do, which is obviously great if it works for them but it may not work for others. I hope I don't sound condescending, I really appreciate the input from experienced people with much better knowledge than myself.

I see you haven't read the sticky threads. It is covered in the FAQs thread (linked below in my signature).

Austinite has a good thread on the subject.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...a-both-required-better-chance-recovery-2.html

 

[dps]

I see you haven't read the sticky threads. It is covered in the FAQs thread (linked below in my signature).

Austinite has a good thread on the subject.

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/653712-clomid-nolva-both-required-better-chance-recovery-2.html

Thank you for this info, much appreciated.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

armidex or any AI taken while on cycle is not just about gyno,, its about overall health and keeping your estrogen levels from raising (high estrogen in males causes a wide range of health problems). which it will rise when injecting exogenous testosterone.. so yes, take the time and do more research and look into proper AI protocols.
.25 mg Arimidex EOD may be a good starting point but you should look into that yourself

Exactly as stated an Aromatise inhibitor is a must. Id add hcg too.