first cycle and sides

[Nearly Natural]

i started my first cycle last monday and jabbed 250mg test e and was planning 500mg a week for 12weeks but i got a rash over my chest and neck and thought it was a allergic reaction so didnt want to do my second jab untill i saw the doc. turns out the rash was to do with hormone inbalance so i can carry on but im now unsure whether to do 500mg a week as ive got quite a bit of acne on my back from just 250mg so im now thinking of running 250mg test and 200mg deca to keep the androgen sides to a min?

any advice would be great.

p.s thought id add that im not prone to acne and have never had it before this.

 

[stang50]

I wouldnt bother running deca at only 200mg and honestly i dont think 250mg of test is gonna do much.

 

[AnabolicLove]

So Deca is gonna keep your Test sides to a minimum? Huh?

 

[Cyborsteel]

An Idea

Read under Deca right here on this site under "Steroid Profiles" it includes:
"Clearly Deca is a very safe choice among steroids. Actually, many consider it to be the best overall steroid for a man to use when weighing the side effects and results."

Also recommended beginner cycles on other sites read: ( And I am just pasting here not recommending)
Cycle#2 Good for 15-25lbs.
Wk..Enth..Deca
1.....250...200
2.....250...200
3.....250...200
4.....250...200
5.....250...200
6.....250...200
7.....250...200
8.....250...200
9.....250...200
10...250...200
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED
Keep nolvadex on hand just in case.A small dose [.25-.50mg ED]of Armidex ED will keep the water retention down and estrogen levels in check decreasing your chances of gyno symptons.You can also use Cyp instead of Enth.

My point is a million people will tell you a million different "facts".Many will tell you you need lots others say small amounts at first will do just fine. Personally I'd rather start out small, than too much and see sides.From my research,one thing most all agree on is More=greater chance of sides so YOU choose wisely.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i understand the point of starting small-but its silly to suppress your natty test for such a small dose

 

[Nearly Natural]

So Deca is gonna keep your Test sides to a minimum? Huh?

i wanted to do 500mg test e a week for 12weeks but i seemed to have got a shit load of pimples over my back so i thought i could run 250mg test and 200mg deca so i can keep the androgen sides to a min from the test but still be running 450mg of gear if that makes sense?

 

[Cyborsteel]

Actually I was put on a doctor HRT test dose of 150 mg weekly and got great results. I went from a stubborn seemingly unmovable 18% Body fat to10% within a rather short period of time. So I know for sure low doses can do something.

 

[Cyborsteel]

Good point

TDO does have a valid point though most will be suppressed even with 100 MG.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Actually I was put on a doctor HRT test dose of 150 mg weekly and got great results. I went from a stubborn seemingly unmovable 18% Body fat to10% within a rather short period of time. So I know for sure low doses will do something.

listen bro-im sorry-but im not going to debate this with you. its obvious your not thinking it through

There is a big diff between having shitty natty production-and taking a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose-as compared to having good natty production and taking just above a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose.

so it may have worked for you because of your situation-but if the OP has normal test levels IT WILL BE STUPID FOR HIM TO RUN 250MG A WEEK............

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

BTW the cycle you posted is FUCKED UP

 

[Cyborsteel]

Ok

I'm not wanting to "debate"or argue just discussing. That's one thing forums are for. Everyone has their own deal and set of circumstances for sure.The OP may have low natty test which is perhaps why he was driven to try AAS. I try not to assume anything.

 

[Cyborsteel]

Me either

From my research I would not run that cycle either.I was just pointing out how much "expert"opinions vary.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if the OP has low test-the worst advice we could give would be to "go ahead and run this cycle bra"................if thats what he is worried about-he should simply click on the big red annoying banner on the right...........and have a convo with chip.

 

[juiceman2027]

 

[Cyborsteel]

I am by far not experienced enough to recommend a cycle so please don't misunderstand.
Even if I was a Endocrinologist,I probably wouldn't say that without testing etc.
BTW what is the "red banner on right?"

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

in the main forum there is a banner for HRT therapy-the guy's name is chip-he is good guy-if you test low-he will straighten you out in no time.

if a guy has low test-he should know what his levels are before cycling-that way he can get bloods done after cycle-to see how he faired

actually we all should know where we stand before we ever cycle

 

[Cyborsteel]

I would be careful calling someone a"dumb ass" else look like one yourself.I am a professional engineer with a masters degree.I would challenge your intellect anytime just by your posting that. Calling names. How juvenile.

 

[Nearly Natural]

just thought id point out my test lvls wernt low they where within normal range(got bloods before). ive been able to gain well up untill recentaly so thought id take the next step. i got to 180lbs lean naturally and im 5''8. just wanted to find out if it was worth running 250mg test and 200mg deca so i could try avoid any unwanted androgen sides from 500mg test but if the deca isnt worth it ill just stay on 500mg and see how i go.

 

[juiceman2027]

 

[Nearly Natural]

u talking to me?