First Cycle...Ever

[bdt71]

19 years old
6'7" 295 lbs.
lifting hard for 3 years
diet is solid

BIG TIME newb here!...been a reader for about 2 months now and have finally decided to start using and looking to start my test e cycle soon. BUT I do have some questions. Is 1cc, two times a week a good amount for me? I have a bottle of 6-oxo also. When should I start taking them? When do I start and what should I take for my post cycle therapy (pct)?

I'm sure more questions will arise, but I appreciate ANY and ALL advice!

 

[rolltide23]

Well, most guys are going to tell you are too young... wait until the 25yrs old range. Your body is producing enough natural test now, plus there is a good chance your growth plates are still open (if your growth plates are still open, steroids can close them prematurely and stunt your growth). There is also a chance you could damage your natural test production... If you want to take a chance and screw your body up, it's your decision... Spend some time on the board and enlighten yourself. Around the age of 25, your natural test drops, so Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) makes since - but get your test levels check at the doc before you start. Eat and train until you are close to mid-20s, then juice, if you still think you need to. I've been on this particular board for 5 years, and I guarantee that no one who knows their stuff is going to recommend steroids (not even prohormones) to you at this time in your life. Be patient... it will pay off. It did for me. Also, you are a big boy already at 19 - 6'7" 295lbs... What's your body-fat percentage?

Read this post and pay attention to what is being said here and who is saying it... http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/132875-am-i-ready-gear.html - The guys giving the advice have been around a long time and know what they are talking about. Don't just take my word for it. You are playing with your hormones, so please take it seriously. There are a lot of people out there that juice at 18-19... If you want to risk it, again, that is your decision. Just remember that a lot of the advice on these boards come from professional body-builders, veterinarians, doctors, veteran users, etc... They know more than you do, so it is good idea to listen to them.

You still need to do more research... 6-OXO is not proper post cycle therapy (pct) to use with AAS. You will need something like nolvadex or clomid, and possibly Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if you are running an extended/high-dose cycle.

Your question regarding CCs... The concentration of the test per vial/amp determines how much test you will get per CC. 1ml = 1cc. So if you have a 10ml vial of TestE 250, you will be getting 250mg of Test per ml/CC. If you want to run 500mg of Test per week, then yes, inject 1cc twice a week (e.g. Mondays & Thursdays).

Good luck.

 

[bdt71]

Thanks rolltide23 for the words. I'm not sure of my BFP...I'm a pretty solid guy...not crazy strong, but not fat.

I'm not sure how much you have to take to really mess your body up bad, but I'm only planning on taking one 10 week cycle right before football starts and thats it for the year. I just need that extra boost to get me that starting spot. I dont know how much it matters but I've always been real mature for my age and havent grown for a couple years now.

 

[rolltide23]

Like I said... It is your decision. Maturity has nothing to do with it man. And YES, the smallest of dosages can and will affect you. The pros/authorities on the board are going to tell you "NO", period, and for good reason.

Also, you need to know how much of your body composition is fat. If you have too much bf, you increase the chances of experiencing estrogen related side effects like gyno. Do you know what gyno is?... male breasts. It's just one of the many sides you can expect from compounds like testosterone. It's very important that you know exactly what you are doing... this isn't like taking creatine. So many different factors come into play here, and it's something that needs to be taken very seriously... People that don't take it seriously, f*ck themselves up - that is one of the main reason steroids have such a negative vibe associated them.

Do what you want to do, but please do some more research... We don't want to see a post from you in 10wks stating that you have b!tch tits now and/or you have a serious injury. You made a good move by visiting this board and asking questions, so stay smart and stay on the right path for now. There is a time and place for Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use, but the general population here at -ology is going to tell you that you are not at that point yet.

 

[bigkit34]

why on earth would u wanna do a cycle weighing 297lbs? how much bigger do u wanna get? all i suggest is that u stick to a strict diet and continue to train hard

 

[nickd84]

No offense but you are an idiot!! Keep reading!! 6-oxo isnt going to do shit for your PCT. 297 pounds i bet your BF is at least 20%.

 

[rolltide23]

No offense but you are an idiot!! Keep reading!! 6-oxo isnt going to do shit for your PCT. 297 pounds i bet your BF is at least 20%.

I would not call him an idiot... he's just extremely naive on the subject. If he does his reading/research and still decides to load up on the juice at 19, then he's an idiot... Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he decides to do.

 

[gethugeagain]

hey bro, wow its seems like this same post is coming up everyday from someone else! i know i my self have commented twice in the last day about the same thing, if you look around I'm sure you can find the post. i would say wait on the juice your time for needing it is a few years away, go as far as you can on your own and you will be glad you did! long story short, sure you can use it now and add some quick size and strength for ten weeks or so, then loose it all because of not having the right pct. then you are not only right back where you started but actually worse because you have made changes to your body that can never be reversed. you will stunt you growth potential in the long run and that's just not worth it! you have so much natural test right now that you don't need aas, trust me! it will do more harm then good! if you are a hard head like i was you BETTER get the right thing for post cycle therapy (pct) because i promise you will pay for it if you don't, for a while! being 19 with no energy, emotional like a little bitch, wanting to do nothing but sleep all day, and not being able to get you dick hard is no fun and a huge price to pay for a 10 week cycle! i hope this helps and i hope you decide to wait, there's much more to learn and you will be bigger and better for it! good luck!

 

[bdt71]

The 6 oxo extreme came with the test e. I know theyre not for the post cycle therapy (pct), but used as an estrogen blocker. I just wanted to know if and when I should start taking them.

Thanks for the advice though. If I'm going to do this I want to do it the right way.

 

[gethugeagain]

i don't know really anything about that except its an otc estrogen blocker, so i cant really help you with that. or course you are going to make up your own mind and don't get me wrong there are a lot of people that have started or start young, I'm just saying it would be better to wait! you may only be doing one 10 week cycle as stated above but that one cycle will still change a lot with your body and such, regardless if you do more after that one or not and those changes cant be reversed. just make sure if you decide to get on that you go at it 110% diet, rest, training, everything and get the best of it! good luck either way bro!

 

[bdt71]

Thanks for the words gta!

Of course I know it would be better to wait, but I'm not planning on taking them after this cycle is over. I need them now.

 

[gethugeagain]

good luck bro and as i said just make sure that everything else is in check 110%, diet and rest are the number one things expescially while on!

 

[nickd84]

WOW you got Test E that came with your very own bottle of 6-oxo, you have a very legit source, one that obviously cares about you and your future health! Good luck buddy i hope you dont F*ck yourself up!

 

[rolltide23]

The 6 oxo extreme came with the test e. I know theyre not for the post cycle therapy (pct), but used as an estrogen blocker. I just wanted to know if and when I should start taking them.

Thanks for the advice though. If I'm going to do this I want to do it the right way.

Yeah... If your source gave you 6-oxo with TestE, your source probably doesn't know what he's doing either. I wonder if the test he gave you is even legit.

6-oxo is used for pro-hormone post cycle therapy (pct) (or that was it's main purpose years ago), not for anabolic/androgenic steroid post cycle therapy (pct)... Formastane was the estrogen blocker at the time I researched pro-hormones, along with a few other chems. But from everything I've ever read and heard about 6-oxo, it should not be used in conjunction w/ steroids.

Good luck!

 

[zephyrdaz]

You should not be doing gear at 19. Your just going to fuck up your body and stop any further growth potential.

But I forget at 19 you know everything don't you.

 

[bdt71]

I dont know everything, thats why I'm doing my research and asking the experts...funny how that works. I just asked if I should even take the 6-OXO, not if I should take it for my PCT.

 

[zephyrdaz]

I dont know everything, thats why I'm doing my research and asking the experts...funny how that works. I just asked if I should even take the 6-OXO, not if I should take it for my PCT.

Good, hopefully you've decided to wait untill your older before you do any steroids.