First Cycle for aspiring bodybuilder (Which one of the two should I go through with?)

[doyouevenlift?]

First of all I want to say hello to everyone on this forum, all of you seem like amazing and helpful blokes.

age:27
height: 6 foot
weight:198
bodyfat %: 11.5%
years training: 8 years

It's time I take it to the next level and leave the life of a natural and made my decision
I am currently buying my needed things and have bought my test e vials already. The PCT is what is worrying me. I will begin cycle in 4 months from now. Just sharpening my knowledge first before I hop in.

Cycle Approach 1:
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Weeks 1-12: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Weeks 1-14: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 6-14: 500iu's of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

Cycle Approach 2:
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Week 1-12: Test E @ 500mg a week split
Week 1-14: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) + 100mg Clomid per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) + 100mg Clomid per day

Questions/concerns:​

- Should I run Test E for 10 weeks instead of 12 in Cycle Approach 1?
- Is clomid/nolva combo a better approach than a hcg/nolva combo for PCT for a simple test only cycle.
- Am I going over the top with PCT for a simple test e cycle? I know many people who just pop nolva after their cycle and walk away like nothing happened. I want to be thorough and safe

 

[doyouevenlift?]

anyone?

 

[Kazmir]

First of all I want to say hello to everyone on this forum, all of you seem like amazing and helpful blokes.

age:27
height: 6 foot
weight:198
bodyfat %: 11.5%
years training: 8 years

It's time I take it to the next level and leave the life of a natural and made my decision
I am currently buying my needed things and have bought my test e vials already. The PCT is what is worrying me. I will begin cycle in 4 months from now. Just sharpening my knowledge first before I hop in.

Cycle Approach 1:
​

Weeks 1-12: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Weeks 1-14: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 6-14: 500iu's of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

Cycle Approach 2:
​

Week 1-12: Test E @ 500mg a week split
Week 1-14: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) + 100mg Clomid per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) + 100mg Clomid per day

Questions/concerns:​

- Should I run Test E for 10 weeks instead of 12 in Cycle Approach 1?
- Is clomid/nolva combo a better approach than a hcg/nolva combo for PCT for a simple test only cycle.
- Am I going over the top with PCT for a simple test e cycle? I know many people who just pop nolva after their cycle and walk away like nothing happened. I want to be thorough and safe

Approach number 1 but change your PCT to
Week 1: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) + 100mg Clomid per day
Week 2,3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) + 50mg Clomid per day

Also run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from week 1 as suppression will start with first pin

 

[frank.tb]

Well thought out first cycle brother.
I agree with kazmir above. Everything else looks good.
Make sure you are pinning every 3.5 days with test E (mon morning and thurs evening) and pinning the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the same time as the test as you stated already.

Get blood work before, 4 to 6 weeks in to cycle, and 1 to 2 months after pct.

Best of luck!

 

[Nevesarem]

Good info

 

[PrinceDianabol]

You can pin test and hCG in the same syringe if you like. No issues there.

Thats a rather high dose of adex. I would start with 0.25mg eod, then adjust it if necessary when you get mid cycles bloods. If for whatever reason you can't get bloods I'd leave it at that dose unless you have symptoms of either high or low e2. IMO it's much better to have slightly higher e2 than low/crashed e2.

As said above, hCG should be pinned from day 1. Never use hCG in PCT - it's counter productive and will actually hinder your recovery.

No disrespect to anyone above, but post cycle bloods should be done no sooner than 6 weeks after PCT. Nolva and Clomid both have long half lives and can still be biasing your bloodwork up until then.

Other than that, good to go bro. Throw up a log when you start

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Good info

Scrap that, just realised you bumped a 2 year old thread. Nice one.