First Cycle Help Needed: TestE/Deca + PCT

[JGroids]

Stats:
weight 185 lbs. BF% 15. Height 5'6", 26 years old

Before:
just coming off a bulk and OTC products, I've decided to jump into steroids. I was using halodrol/novedex xt from gaspari.


Train:
6 days a week/Sunday off day.

Diet:
250g protein/day, cycling carbs/fat



Roids purchased
TestE/Deca


TestE
Deca
PCT - novladex ?

Cycle Profile

TestE- 250mg/injection, 2x a week = 500 mg TestE/week
Deca- 125 mg/injection, 2x a week = 250 mg Deca




Questions
I read that it's best that TestEeca goes in a 2:1 ratio, so that's why i chose that.

TestE is a medium length ester, while Deca is a long (?) should I run TestE 1 week longer then Deca? How do I come 'off' this cycle?

I was told I should use Novladex incase I see symptoms of elevated levels of aromatized estrogen. How much? I read htat 20 mg per day? is novladex a liquid? injectable? oral? where do i buy it? my local supplier doesn't carry post cycle therapy (pct).

is that RUI-products website (advertised ont his site) legit? to buy novladex from?

and how do I do my PCT... how long until i use novladex for PCT, 1 week after cycle end? 2 week?

and.. shoudl i just get 2 cc syringes? and where do i buy them + the needles?

pin on the butt i guess right? mix Deca/testE together in one syringe (aspirate to one) and inject?

please help i'm still not 100% sure of everything for my first cycle

 

[Spear]

Hey Bro,

I am new to this forum, but I can tell you, that you can learn a lot from searching, and reading. Plus it will make you feel better knowing that you actually learned all the information rather than just taking some 'dudes' advice.

deca will shut you down, I can guarantee that.

You will need more than just nolva for PCT... your PCT should look similar to this:

Week 1-6 20mg/day Nolvadex
Week 1-3 1,000IU Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) M,W,F
Week 4-6 50mg/day Clomid

That's a bit extreme, but it will be safe.

If you can't get your hands on that, then don't use the DECA, do a Test E, dbol cycle...

deca is especially suppressive because it's progestagenic and it raises prolactin levels.

 

[rbkjitsu22]

Hey bud, listen deca is one of the best steroids ever made, with out a doubt. Alot of people will tell you deca sucks becuase of the dreaded deca dick. However most these people dont use it and just go off what others say. And if they do they use it wrong. Personaly I love deca and I run it over 500mg a week. I would recomend using test along with it, and since this is your first cycle 500mg of cyp will be fine and 250 deca is perfect for first time. Here is how I would run it......

12 week cycle
500 test week (pin twice a week) last two weeks only use 250 per
250 deca per week (pin once) longer ester no need to split in two
run test for 12 weeks
run deca for 10
start nolva week 13 25mg a day continue for four weeks
start clomid week 14 at 100mg for first week then cut to 50mg for the next three weeks
I would use arimadex during cycle at a really low dose to keep bloat off
use b-6 with the deca at 300 to 400mg per day
take niacin time release for cholesterol at 1500mg a day
take fish oil 6 pills per day
Keep protien intake above 300
Clen works great too for pct, helps keep a anabolic state and keep cortisol under control. Let me know and I can tell you how I would take it

the clomid can give you anxiety at doses above 25mg..so if you are feeling a little off thats probably why. Either lower the dose or hang in there

There are many exotic ways to take steroids and geat great results. Research as much as you can and dont listen to people who say this sucks or that sucks. Every steroid has its uses and some may work better then others for you. Everyone is different. Too many people are narrow minded and recomend only what works for them....Good luck and expect to gain 20 to 35lbs...

 

[TJ]

I just wanted to know whether it was safe to come off Halodrol liquigels and novedex xt by Gaspari nurtition and go straight into a test e, anavar cycle? I really do not want to wait... is it ok?

 

[coltmc45]

First cycle should be test ONLY. You don't know how your body reacts to test let alone deca. Deca needs to be ran 12 wks min and 400mg a wk min IMO. Anything less is a waste. Run test 2 wks longer then deca. Pct 2 wks after last test pin. Blast 500iu HCG for 10 days starting the day after your last test pin and stopping 4 days before post cycle therapy (pct). PCT:Clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 aromasin 12.5mg ed. You should run aromasin at 12.5 ed and bump if needed the entire cycle since you don't know if your gyno prone or not. This will also keep prolactin related sides down since you'll have your estro in check.

 

[MeatHead96]

i just wanted to know whether it was safe to come off halodrol liquigels and novedex xt by gaspari nurtition and go straight into a test e, anavar cycle? I really do not want to wait... Is it ok?

start your own thread

 

[coltmc45]

Oh nice. I wasted my time cuz a newb hi jacked and resurected a year old thread. Thank you.