first cycle, need a exp. users help

[lennox jones]

hey i am 6,2" 190lbs i need help with my first cycle i was thinking about taking d-bol orals for 3 weeks 40mg daily and then taking Winstrol (winny) 50mg orals for 6 weeks after the d-bol, please let me know if i should add anything into that or if i need to extend or shorten weeks. also please let me know if i need to upper or lower the dosage of the daily mg's, i know! orals are not the best way to go but i have milk thistle and other things to help protect my liver, also i never! drink and i dont smoke or smoke weed, i am 19 years old and have been competing for 7 years as a boxer i am very active and my body fat is about 12-13 % i am pretty lean. all the help i can get with this i am joining the army and want to be a machineee! whats the best way to go about this

 

[balboa270]

hey i am 6,2" 190lbs i need help with my first cycle i was thinking about taking d-bol orals for 3 weeks 40mg daily and then taking Winstrol (winny) 50mg orals for 6 weeks after the d-bol, please let me know if i should add anything into that or if i need to extend or shorten weeks. also please let me know if i need to upper or lower the dosage of the daily mg's, i know! orals are not the best way to go but i have milk thistle and other things to help protect my liver, also i never! drink and i dont smoke or smoke weed, i am 19 years old and have been competing for 7 years as a boxer i am very active and my body fat is about 12-13 % i am pretty lean. all the help i can get with this i am joining the army and want to be a machineee! whats the best way to go about this

it does takea vet to answer this you need a test base period. And your 19 2 no, nos already get ready for the onslaught

 

[balboa270]

Also your joining army let mother nature do her thing I fought boxing and mma for 15 years never did aas do your army gig then think about it bro

 

[Mrdeb]

you dont need steroids... and you are joining the army its a waste time period so dont bother.

 

[lennox jones]

you dont need steroids... and you are joining the army its a waste time period so dont bother.

im joining the army in 3 years.... i am in college right now working out 3 days a week then 2 days off then 3 days back on, i want to bulk up, and i am aware i dont need steroids but it will make things go alot quicker, it doesnt matter how you get the pot of gold Mrdeb , so i am willing to do them

 

[Greens]

hey i am 6,2" 190lbs i need help with my first cycle i was thinking about taking d-bol orals for 3 weeks 40mg daily and then taking Winstrol (winny) 50mg orals for 6 weeks after the d-bol, please let me know if i should add anything into that or if i need to extend or shorten weeks. also please let me know if i need to upper or lower the dosage of the daily mg's, i know! orals are not the best way to go but i have milk thistle and other things to help protect my liver, also i never! drink and i dont smoke or smoke weed, i am 19 years old and have been competing for 7 years as a boxer i am very active and my body fat is about 12-13 % i am pretty lean. all the help i can get with this i am joining the army and want to be a machineee! whats the best way to go about this

I would be more worried about not being able to get a hard-on, shutting down my natural testosterone production permanently and losing all of the "gains" that you make over your terrible cycle.
Dbol will make you bloat up, you'll pack on 20lbs in a few weeks, then lose all of it. Winni will dry out your joints, not good for an active athlete. Winstrol will make you look more ripped IF you're already cut,..12-13% bf is not cut.
If you're going to take steroids start with Testosterone, but my guess is that you're afraid of needles...but you're joining the army....
Do you know what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) stands for? How about PCT?
I'm guessing that you don't.
You're in college, 19 years old...so to top it all off you're too young.

 

[lennox jones]

I would be more worried about not being able to get a hard-on, shutting down my natural testosterone production permanently and losing all of the "gains" that you make over your terrible cycle.
Dbol will make you bloat up, you'll pack on 20lbs in a few weeks, then lose all of it. Winni will dry out your joints, not good for an active athlete. Winstrol will make you look more ripped IF you're already cut,..12-13% bf is not cut.
If you're going to take steroids start with Testosterone, but my guess is that you're afraid of needles...but you're joining the army....
Do you know what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) stands for? How about post cycle therapy (pct)?
I'm guessing that you don't.
You're in college, 19 years old...so to top it all off you're too young.

no i am not afraid of needles, i dont know if i can get my hands on some i live in canada they are stricked as fuck. and 12-13% was last year thats the only number that came to my head, and also im sure im cut enough for winstrol i have good peck definition and a 6 pack.... and a.i -artificial injection my guess.. and yes i know all about post cycle therapy (pct) i would go on nov. or a-hd after my cycle to get my test back to normal, keep some gain and so that i dont get gyno

 

[bigherm2121]

Here read this. That's a terrible terrible cycle. Did i mention it sucks too!! Your too young also Go here. http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

 

[coltmc45]

Read the sticky herm posted and read the am I ready for gear checklist. You gotta have test in there.

 

[Greens]

no i am not afraid of needles, i dont know if i can get my hands on some i live in canada they are stricked as fuck. and 12-13% was last year thats the only number that came to my head, and also im sure im cut enough for winstrol i have good peck definition and a 6 pack.... and a.i -artificial injection my guess.. and yes i know all about post cycle therapy (pct) i would go on nov. or a-hd after my cycle to get my test back to normal, keep some gain and so that i dont get gyno

AI's are Aromatase Inhibitors. If I were you I'd do a quick search on them. I'm in Canada, near T.O., so maybe it's just my location but anything and everything is a phone call away.
The thing about Winstrol is that it dries you out, thus giving the appearance of being more cut, once off of it your body will rehydrate. It will shut down your natural test production also, which is the main reason that everybody will tell you to run a test base for every cycle, as well as recommending that you run a Test only first cycle, which will allow you to see how you react,..believe me, if you eat well and train well there is no reason to not make incredible gains on test only.
As for post cycle therapy (pct), forget about any OTC garbage, none of it, no matter what the package says, will help you recover quickly. Diet is the most important thing for a guy your age.

 

[lennox jones]

Don't encourage this guy to cycle... he is too young and obviously hasn't done his homework.

Lennox Jones... you don't want to join the Army sporting bitch tits, right? Think about how weird that would be.

thats why im on this fucking forum so i can learn the best way to go about this... this forum isnt built for all the ronnie colemans out there... you type one thing on this forum and get ripped to shreds by "hard" "tough" exp users well isnt it better to tell someone the right way to go about using them, then saying but i dont suggest you do them because of your age or whatever... oppose to not telling someone good information about steroids when they ask, they will just use them anyways not knowing how to use them and what not. helping someone out would be by telling them the right way to go about it then saying not to do it.. retard put some logic into your next post

 

[lennox jones]

AI's are Aromatase Inhibitors. If I were you I'd do a quick search on them. I'm in Canada, near T.O., so maybe it's just my location but anything and everything is a phone call away.
The thing about Winstrol is that it dries you out, thus giving the appearance of being more cut, once off of it your body will rehydrate. It will shut down your natural test production also, which is the main reason that everybody will tell you to run a test base for every cycle, as well as recommending that you run a Test only first cycle, which will allow you to see how you react,..believe me, if you eat well and train well there is no reason to not make incredible gains on test only.
As for PCT, forget about any OTC garbage, none of it, no matter what the package says, will help you recover quickly. Diet is the most important thing for a guy your age.

thank you greens!