First Cycle/PCT

srh

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I am 32, 5'9", 195 lbs, BF% - ?. I have been working out for several years, however, have really worked hard for the last year making fairly good gains in strength and size. I also take Creatine 5 g day and Whey protein (a couple of 25 g shakes each day). I also try to do cardio at least 30-60 min. 2-3 times a week. My goal is to get a little bigger and lose a little more body fat.

From doing alot of research from this website along with several others (and the book "Anabolics 2006") I am now convinced that my first cycle should be Test Enan.

I am considering a first cycle of Test. Enanthate @ 250 mg ED for 10 weeks along with either Arimidex 1mg Ed for 10 weeks OR Proviron 50 mg and Nolva 20mg daily for 10 weeks.

Following the cycle I would continue the Nolva for about 6 weeks and after 2-3 weeks post cycle add Clomid (50-100mg day) for three weeks and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (possibly 3 - 1500 iu shots spaced about five days apart?)

The reason for the anit-estrogen during the cycle is, as I stated in a previous post, I had prior non-steroid related gyno that I had surgically corrected, however, there is still a small amount of glandular tissue beneath each nip that, I assume, with excess estrogen could grow again.

My questions are:

Would this be a good first cycle?

Should I take more than 250mg of Test since I would be taking the anti-e along with it?

Should I take Arimidex 1 mg each day during the cycle to totally prevent estrogen conversion or should I take Priviron/Nolvadex to attack it from a different angle? (I understand from my research that Arimidex while totally eliminating estrogen and it's side effects may have adverse effects on Cholesterol and Blood pressure while Nolva may actually have a positive affect on them)

Or should I take no anti-e at all during the cycle unless symptons occur? (I am just worried that by the time I recognize the symptoms it may be too late for the anit-e to correct them)

Also, I was considering taking Proscar at 1mg each day to prevent my hair from falling out. I do have somewhat of a receading hairline.

I know this is a long post to read/answer, however, I really do appreciate your experience and advice and thank you in advance for same.
 
1) I would up those 2 shakes a day from 25g to 50g and maybe add in another one sometime during the day. You need to eat at least 300g of protein a day at your BW, I would go as high as 350-400 if I were you. Diet is the key to your gains.

2)Test E only is a great first cycle, however not at 250mg Ed. The highest I would go for a first cycle is 500mg/week, but some would say start out at 300mg/week. I personally like 500mg for the individual who doesn't plan on running multiple cycles over a peroid of several years and only wants the most out of maybe 1-2 cycles. You need to shoot 250mg every Mon/Thur, this will give you stable blood levels at 500mg/week.

3)Just run the arimidex at .5mg ED, not 1mg and drop the proviron. Don't use the nolva during, but keep it on hand in case you start to develop gyno.

4)The proscar I believe will be fine, but i'm not up to date on my hair-loss prevention products b/c i've never had to deal with it.

5)You can run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throught the cycle, but not during your post cycle therapy (pct). I would suggest 250iu's on Mon/Thurs on the same day you inject the Test. Never inject more than 500iu's of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in one day.

6)You need to start post cycle therapy (pct) exactly 2 weeks after your last shot and it should look like this:

/Nolva @ 40mg days 1-14 /
Nolva @ 20mg days 15-28 /
Nolva @ 10-20mg day 28 - until you feel you've fully recovered.

Take some time and read all the threads in this link, lot's a valuable info...

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=41
 
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Thanks very much for your input. I actually meant 250mg/week of Test not per day. Thanks again.
 
Test e only is a great first cycle. 250mg is an alright dose but I wouldn't expect much gains. 300-400mg would be better IMO. If you're ambitious go with 400mg.

I would drop the nolva and use 0.5mg ldex daily throughout. I would rather prevent the conversion to estrogen than have to treat it with nolva after the fact.

HCG, most people use this when running extended cycles. Since you're only running test for 10 weeks at a low dose I wouldn't bother with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG).


Proscar works well for a lot of people. But it doesn't work too well for a lot of people. It doesn't work to well for me. MPB runs in my family and I consider myself highly suceptible although I've been lucky so far. I use dutasteride. It works on the same action as proscar, but is much more powerful. That stuff works great at keeping my hair. But since this is your first cycle I would start out with proscar at 2mg a day. If after 2 weeks you're seeing hairloss bump the dose to 4mg. If after another 2 weeks you're still seeing hairloss get some dutasteride.

For post cycle therapy (pct) I would run this.

days 1-30 clomid 100mgs
days 1-30 nolva 20mgs
days 1-30 ldex 0.5mgs

I also run Reduce XT which is an anti-cortisol for the first 2 weeks.

I've had excellent results with the above post cycle therapy (pct). My last cycle I didn't lose one ounce of strength or weight.

My advice is a bit different than JT190 b/c there are different schools of thought on how to cycle and how to run post cycle therapy (pct). I would wait for more opinions to get a larger consensus.

Let us know if you have any other questions.
 
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