First Cycle post cycle therapy (pct) - Need your input.

[aesthetics123]

First Cycle PCT - Need your input.

Hi guys,

In the next month I am doing a Test E cycle (my first cycle). I will be doing 2 x 250mg per week (500mg per week) for 12 weeks. I will be injecting into glutes with a 23g 1 1/2" pin.

Theres so many different posts online in regards to post cycle therapy (pct) just wanted your input on what I had in mind.

HCG in the last 4 weeks of cycle to get the balls back in action (recommended by Bill Roberts) then wait 2 weeks after cycle and do a nolva/clomid combo for 4 weeks. Is this overkill for a 12 week test e only cycle?

Any help on this would be appreciated. I will make a log and track my progress aswell so be sure to follow when I do!

 

[wclark316]

weight height body fat,,, goals for this cycle

 

[aesthetics123]

weight height body fat,,, goals for this cycle

81kg, 5"10, roughly 12 to 15%. Have been training for 5 years. Looking to put on some muscle mass and increase strength. Will be using this for a clean bulk phase and will be smashing calories down so not concerned with a bit of fat gain as I will cut afterwards.

I will definitely be doing the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), but am not to sure on whether I should just run Nolvadex or a combination of Clomid & Nolvadex as Ive read mixed things.

 

[aesthetics123]

Do you guys think HCG would be needed or is it for real heavy cycles? Would Nolvadex just suffice for Test E only cycle PCT? Thoughts?

 

[Metalhead]

Nolva and clomid should be just fine

 

[aesthetics123]

Nolva and clomid should be just fine

Thanks for your reply! Will the Nolva be fine in case I get gyno symptoms? (I am not normaly gyno prone) or should i have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand aswell in case?

 

[Metalhead]

Take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout your cycle. Im taking aromasin 13mg e3d right now. You will need to take nolva if any gyno shows up. And of course during pct

 

[aesthetics123]

Take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout your cycle. Im taking aromasin 13mg e3d right now. You will need to take nolva if any gyno shows up. And of course during pct

Ok, and you don't get any joint soreness off that dosage? I will get some Aromasin then. What sort of doasge of Nolva do you take if gyno symptoms show up? Do you recommend Nolva and Clomid combo like this:

Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

 

[aesthetics123]

Also, when do you start the Aromasin on cycle..the first week?

 

[Metalhead]

I started mine the second since it takes a while for test e or c to build up, but youll be fine starting it week 1

 

[aesthetics123]

Ok and do you take the Aromasin e3d while on post cycle therapy (pct) aswell? or just Nolva

 

[kaname]

@ Aesthietics I know this is off topic but I would recommend adding at least one more pin site instead of just running glutes every week at twice a week. I would rotate one more body part in there.

As for as your Aromasin you treat that like Adex it's an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to be used during cycle. post cycle therapy (pct) will be your Nolva and Clomid.

 

[aesthetics123]

@ Aesthietics I know this is off topic but I would recommend adding at least one more pin site instead of just running glutes every week at twice a week. I would rotate one more body part in there.

As for as your Aromasin you treat that like Adex it's an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to be used during cycle. post cycle therapy (pct) will be your Nolva and Clomid.

Ok Thanks, I will rotate with quads. What size needle is good for test e shoulder injection?

 

[halfwit]

Ok Thanks, I will rotate with quads. What size needle is good for test e shoulder injection?

I love my 25g 1" needles, they're good for every body part unless you have a lot of junk in the trunk. If baby's got back, you'll need to move up to a 1.5" for glutes.

My .02c

 

[aesthetics123]

I love my 25g 1" needles, they're good for every body part unless you have a lot of junk in the trunk. If baby's got back, you'll need to move up to a 1.5" for glutes.

My .02c

Thanks mate, I don't have that much bf. I'd say around 12 to 15% (can see six pack.) so I might get 25g and give them a try

 

[kaname]

I love my 25g 1" needles, they're good for every body part unless you have a lot of junk in the trunk. If baby's got back, you'll need to move up to a 1.5" for glutes.

My .02c

^ this times two. 25g is such a beautiful thing.

 

[Norsegod]

I prefer nolva, myself, but keep in mind that an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will slightly slow gains. Nothing too badly, just letting you know since your goal is bulking. If sides did show one could start nolva and be good, but what these guys said is truth too. Do your research and you'll be good