first cycle some questions...

ozelot

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hello,

so i am thinking about doing my first cycle probably this year.
right now i am 32 year old, healthy, 5'11 tall, about 185 pounds now, between 10 and 15 percent bodyfat and eating around 3000 and 3500 calories a day, been lifting for a while.
the years before lifting i was between 140 (!) and 155 pounds, due to very low caloric intake also...


i am thinking about doing a testosterone only cycle (maybe 10 or 12 weeks, 400mg/week) and want to use HCG during the cycle. i also want to use a good PCT.

i am from germany.

my questions:

1. what costs could be expected for the whole thing, roughly?
2. should i use an estrogen blocker like arimidex or nolvadex during cycle?

(any ideas and maybe suggestions as well? thanks!)
 
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Hi Ozelot

If you want to do testoterone, then i will recommend test cypionate. (200mg every 4-5 days) Fewer injections than many other forms of test, and its overall the best test version in my opinion.
Regarding estrogen blockers, i would recommend you to use proviron. (50mg per day during cycle) This is not a blocker, it simply stops the forming of estrogen to begin with.
Regarding prices, i am living in Thailand, where both these drugs are legal and regulated. I pay approx *********** for a full cycle, like yours. Its different prices in different countries, though..
 
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Hi Ozelot

If you want to do testoterone, then i will recommend test cypionate. (200mg every 4-5 days) Fewer injections than many other forms of test, and its overall the best test version in my opinion.
Regarding estrogen blockers, i would recommend you to use proviron. (50mg per day during cycle) This is not a blocker, it simply stops the forming of estrogen to begin with.
Regarding prices, i am living in Thailand, where both these drugs are legal and regulated. I pay approx 130-150usd for a full cycle, like yours. Its different prices in different countries, though..

Hi hawkeye.
You are a retard and with your reckless advice you could end up hurting someone.
Usually I'm a very calm person but people like you who know nothing, yet advising people some bad sh1t that could damage their health , such people make me angry.

I suggest u suck it up, and don't post till you learn something.



Op:
u need an AI on cycle aka aramidex , aromasin
U need serms for pct.. Use nolvadex and clomid.
 
Hi Ozelot
If you want to do testoterone, then i will recommend test cypionate. (200mg every 4-5 days) Fewer injections than many other forms of test, and its overall the best test version in my opinion.
.

What do you mean by this? Test-e and Test-c are essentially interchangeable.

Most first cycles start at 500mg/week as well.
 
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Hi hawkeye.
You are a retard and with your reckless advice you could end up hurting someone.
Usually I'm a very calm person but people like you who know nothing, yet advising people some bad sh1t that could damage their health , such people make me angry.

I suggest u suck it up, and don't post till you learn something.



Op:
u need an AI on cycle aka aramidex , aromasin
U need serms for pct.. Use nolvadex and clomid.

Instead of calling people names, maybe you should explain me why you think im a retard ?
In regards of Test, i think cypionate is the best option. Im sure many people will agree..
In terms of amount of dose, i think 200mg ever 4-5 days is ok for a beginner.
In terms of making sur you dont end up with bitch tits and so on, i think proviron is good.
He have a relative low bodyfat, so he dont need more than 50mg per day.
Ok you, think she should take something different.. I do not agree with you, as i think proviron is the safest bet. But it is what it is..
You should still answer using your brain.. I know its hard, but try it sometime..
 
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What do you mean by this? Test-e and Test-c are essentially interchangeable.

Most first cycles start at 500mg/week as well.

Many people are doing test shots every 2 days, (with short esters) but cyp is long esters, thats why i think best for him, as a first time gear user, to take fewer shots.
Many people are also doing way to high dose of gear, and for a guy (not large) + he will have the benefit of its his first cycle, so i feel 400mg per week should be good.
 
Hi hawkeye.
You are a retard and with your reckless advice you could end up hurting someone.
Usually I'm a very calm person but people like you who know nothing, yet advising people some bad sh1t that could damage their health , such people make me angry.

I suggest u suck it up, and don't post till you learn something.



Op:
u need an AI on cycle aka aramidex , aromasin
U need serms for pct.. Use nolvadex and clomid.

steroidology.com/proviron-all-you-need-to-know/
And i didnt write anything about post cycle..
 
Hi Ozelot

If you want to do testoterone, then i will recommend test cypionate. (200mg every 4-5 days) Fewer injections than many other forms of test, and its overall the best test version in my opinion.
Regarding estrogen blockers, i would recommend you to use proviron. (50mg per day during cycle) This is not a blocker, it simply stops the forming of estrogen to begin with.
Regarding prices, i am living in Thailand, where both these drugs are legal and regulated. I pay approx *********** for a full cycle, like yours. Its different prices in different countries, though..

Instead of calling people names, maybe you should explain me why you think im a retard ?
..

For the following reasons:
1- test is test no matter what ester you use.
2- injecting test c/e should be done every 3.5 days to be specific , every 5 days and their will be hormonal imbalance which could result in sides and xtra headache
3- proviron will do shit in terms of blocking estrogen like serms aka nolvadex or lowering it like AI aka Adex, using proviron instead of an AI is reckless , people who will take your advice could end up hurting themselves.

Happy Easter.. Sorry for calling you names , but plz make sure before you post anything that could cause damage to others.
 
For the following reasons:
1- test is test no matter what ester you use.
2- injecting test c/e should be done every 3.5 days to be specific , every 5 days and their will be hormonal imbalance which could result in sides and xtra headache
3- proviron will do shit in terms of blocking estrogen like serms aka nolvadex or lowering it like AI aka Adex, using proviron instead of an AI is reckless , people who will take your advice could end up hurting themselves.

Happy Easter.. Sorry for calling you names , but plz make sure before you post anything that could cause damage to others.

Hi Rida5d

Thank you for explanation + apology!.
To reply to your comments,
1. Test is not just test.. As you put it. The different esters in test will give you different release times/effectiveness timetable sought of speak.
2. Depending on the test type (specific esters in your test) your using, you can take it up to 8 days between shots. Again depending on dose, and so on.. Look at people that use it in low test therapy. Many of them are shooting once per week and they have nice constant level of test in there system. Because of the long esters in some types of test.
3. Proviron is blocking the production of estrogen in the body. It will actually stop you from creating the estrogen to begin with.

Now, im sure you will be saying im a complete idiot or something.. But read up on your current knowledge before you start complaining about me being an idiot..
Happpy Easter ;-)
 
hi hawkeye.
You are a retard and with your reckless advice you could end up hurting someone.
Usually i'm a very calm person but people like you who know nothing, yet advising people some bad sh1t that could damage their health , such people make me angry.

I suggest u suck it up, and don't post till you learn something.



Op:
U need an ai on cycle aka aramidex , aromasin
u need serms for pct.. Use nolvadex and clomid.

bump
 
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