First cycle Test E *credit* to Heavyiron

Jake the Gent

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So I grabbed this off heavyirons post about first cycles. Gonna try it out lemme know if I misunderstood anything.
steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/614947-first-cycle-pct.html

I'm going to do:

10 weeks 600mg of Test E

Sunday 10mg Aromasin
Monday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
Tuesday 10mg Aromasin/300mg enanthate
Wednesday 10mg Aromasin
Thursday 10mg Aromasin
Friday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
Saturday 10mg Aromasin/300mg enanthate
(Taken from your post)

I'm going to start PCT 2 weeks after last injection.
It's as follows
100/100/100/50 clomid first 3 weeks dosed in 50's.
20/20/20/10

I was hoping I could cut the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) out for Pct since it was taken through my cycle or at least reduce it.

Also I was going to have nolvadex on hand in case of gyno.

I was also reading it saying something about having to mix Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or dilute it or something like that but nothing overly descriptive...

That's pretty much it. Any pointers you could give would be great. if I have a misunderstanding of something it'd be great if u could clear it up for me.

1 other question what type of needle should I use?? 23g?

Soon as I start ill post before pics and after pics and keep a journal logged.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and critique it for me.
 
first off, and these are just my opinions based on my research, assuming you are atleast 23 with 4-5 yrs training experience and your diet is on track.

I would run it for 12 weeks of test-e,also unless your test is dosed at 300mg/ml which I doubt I would do 500mg per week, splitting the injections to 250mg a time. Same for your aromasin unless it comes dosed at 10mg its going to be difficult to figure out what 10mg is out of (for example) a 12.5 mg pill. Assuming they are dosed the same asmine (6.25mg per pill) for the first 2 weeks I would take 6.25 mg every other day then after 2 weeks in I would up it to 12.5mg every day, JMO.
I cannot comment on the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dosage because I chose not to run it on my cycle. Also the pct 100mg of clomid for 3 weeks is a hell of a lot for just a test cycle, personally I wouldn't front load it I would just go 50/50/50/50 but if you are going to id do it for just the first week of maybe even just the first few days.and im assuming the 20/20/20/10 is nolva, I would run that at 40/40/20/20. but that's me.

with regard to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during pct im pretty sure you don't, I know you can blast it prior to, again not sure of at what dose, but you don't take it with your pct.

and yes you do mix Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), it comes as a powder and you need to add bac water with it. example if you have 5000iu of powder you mix it with 10ml that will give you 500iu/ml of solution so when you inject your 500u dose of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that would mean you draw up 1ml (id check to make sure, I assume 10ml is enough to mix 5000iu with, again I have never used it, only going by what I have read)

23g pins are fin, I use them for drawing and pinning, just make sure you use a fresh needle to pin with. I use 1.5x23g for glute and 1x23g for delt

also youll want to post your age, bf, diet , routine , pics etc

best of luck bro
 
Thanks for the detailed reply big. The 20/20/20/10 is aromasin. I'm grabbing nolva just in case of gyno. Sorry by the way for not posting stats.

Age 23
BF is 15%~
Diet is a little inconsistent due to my work schedule. Usually ill eat whole natural foods with minimum sodium bi can only eat out at restaurants so eggs chicken steak liver all vegetables 1.5-2 gallons of water a day.
Routine is:
Monday back/bicep
Tuesday legs
Wednesday shoulders
Thursday: rest
Friday: chest/tricep and calfs
Saturday: ass day
Sunday: rest

Every other day I work core. Everyday is a different type of cardio.

I alternate 2 weeks heavy low reps 1 weeks high reps low weight. Every third week is high rep calisthenics and plyometrics with off days being balance days. Stretch every day for 1/2 hour.
 
again out of curiosity what is your aromasin dosed at?? and you don't include aromasin in your post cycle therapy (pct). its ran during cycle and the 2 week or so break before post cycle therapy (pct). you stop taking aromasin the day before you start pct

with thatsaid I wouldnt run just clomid for pct I would do a clomid nolva combo
clomid at 50/50/50/50 ( you could go 100 on the first week if you want that's up to u)
and nolva at 40/40/20/20

youll want to be careful eating out at restaurants, take note to how the food is cooked and what its cooked in, also serving sizes, you don't want to under eat...

also what is your weight and goals for this cycle??
 
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