First cycle, thoughts/suggestions

[aesthetic_for_life]

• Wk 1-6: NPP 150 mg EOD
• Wk 1-8: Test prop 150mg EOD
• Wk 5-7: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500 iu’s ED
• Wk 5-7: Nolvadex 20 mg ED
• Wk 2-12: Arimidex 0.5 mg EOD


PCT(Started 3 days after last prop pin):
• Wk 9-10: Nolvadex 40 mg ED
• Wk 11-12: Nolvadex 20 mg ED
• Wk 9: Clomid 100 mg ED
• Wk 10-11: Clomid 50 mg ED
• Wk 12: Clomid 25 mg ED

 

[ktown]

What's your age,stats,diet.....

 

[ronrr]

read stickies

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

I've never seen anyone recommend 100mg of clomid

 

[Ridiculous87]

Maybe do 12 weeks of test e vs prop. Better leaner gains less pinning and it hurts less cut the climid to 50 and only use adex if you need it. ruins the gains dries up joints

I'd rather have a little less gains then fat tits. I don't see how keeping Adex to .25mm
G EOD or Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD would hurt gains that much. And if your joints are drying out usinf Adex switch to Aromasin or visa versa... No tits > muscle imo lol

 

[KingBF]

how about you keep reseaching and your first cycle should be test only.
test e or c 500mg EW - 12weeks
aromasin eod 12.5mg and adjust from there
two weeks after last inject start clomid 50mg ed and nolva at 20mg ED both for 4 weeks

 

[aesthetic_for_life]

I've never seen anyone recommend 100mg of clomid

Really?? I read around on a couple of other forums and that is how people start with Clomid. How much would you recommend?

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

First off I have no experience, the standard pct sticky says 50/50/50/50 for clomid, I was told it is too strong for a lot of people...makes them as emotionally vulnerable as a girl

there are four examples given:

#1 clomid 50mg every day for 4-6 weeks.
#2 Torimefine 30-60mg every day for 4-6 weeks.
#3 Nolva 40mg for 14 days and then 20mg for 14-28 more days.
#4 clomid and Nolva combo.
clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

I read around on a couple of other forums

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[aesthetic_for_life]

First off I have no experience, the standard post cycle therapy (pct) sticky says 50/50/50/50 for clomid, I was told it is too strong for a lot of people...makes them as emotionally vulnerable as a girl

there are four examples given:

#1 clomid 50mg every day for 4-6 weeks.
#2 Torimefine 30-60mg every day for 4-6 weeks.
#3 Nolva 40mg for 14 days and then 20mg for 14-28 more days.
#4 clomid and Nolva combo.
clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10

I remember reading this sticky while researching, but he says that this is a standard post cycle therapy (pct) for a light cycle (which he considers to be a test only cycle) I will be using npp which I wouldn't consider a light compound, would these dosages be ok to use still?

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

There are multiple sections, as far as I know the standard doses don't change (Clomid/Nolva/Torimefine) but you introduce Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in light/heavy cycles and may include a blasting phase

 

[aesthetic_for_life]

There are multiple sections, as far as I know the standard doses don't change (Clomid/Nolva/Torimefine) but you introduce Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in light/heavy cycles and may include a blasting phase

Thanks for the info, will change my dosages if this is true.

 

[drjekyll28]

Everything looks good...except that 100 mg of clomid for week 9. IMO 50mg will suffice.

 

[aesthetic_for_life]

Everything looks good...except that 100 mg of clomid for week 9. IMO 50mg will suffice.

Thanks for the input man, will probably end up going Wk 9-11 on 50 mg of clomid

 

[aesthetic_for_life]

Quick question, should I go 50/50/50/25 or 50/50/25/25 for Clomid? Thanks for the help guys

 

[drjekyll28]

50/50/50/25.

 

[aesthetic_for_life]

50/50/50/25.

Thanks bro! Well, that's basically it, I'm good to go!

 

[a7x411]

horrible first cycle bro
do some research and stop listening to all the they-sayers

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

The information I provided was that from senior members and mods with years of first hand experience-

Horrible reply bro

 

[aesthetic_for_life]

horrible first cycle bro
do some research and stop listening to all the they-sayers

I think it will be a good one now that I got all my doses set straight.