First Cycle Thoughts.....Test gel+PH

[Redskins123]

Not sure if this is in the right sub-forum or not, sorry if its in the wrong place. I can move - copy paste accordingly.

I'm doing some research for my first cycle. I am thinking of doing a t gel and a PH for my first run. I know injectables are better but thinking about starting with this before I try the real deal (and don't have a source, rather have in person source than online) and just to see how I react.


First what gel/spray. Which would you recommend -- RS-Transaderm from ruthless supplements or generic androgel from androshop? (those are two I have found a decent amount of info on). I would use as directed, x amounts of pumps after shower in morning etc. How long would I run something like this for?

Thinking of stacking this with M-Sten rx. Have read a lot of good things and logs with this product. Would use as directed, 2 pills a day with meals 1 am 1 pm. And run this for the recommended 4 weeks.


For cycle support thinking of using N2guard. Anything else I should add or replace N2 with? Should I take nolva during my cycle? Should I start my cycle support 2 weeks prior to actual cycle? Other misc supps I would take and am currently taking are fish oil, Orange Triad (multi+semi joint support), creatine. Protein powder, but thats not really a supp in my book. Might buy bulk glucosamine for joints.


For PCT thinking of using Nolvadex 20mg a day or Clomid ( from medicstar legit?) as PCT. I have no experience with either (obviously) which one do you think would benefit me and my cycle? I have bulk DAA, any other PCT supps to look into? When to start PCT since its PH and t gel?


Info about me:
-currently 21 (22 less than a month), but not going to run until ~22.5+years
-training for 3+ years
-Currently 6'3 at ~240lbs (dat dere bulking)
-Havent had it measured but I'm think my BF is around 17-18 or so BF.
^^ But stats might change some by the time I do my run^^
My long term goal is probably to be around 225-235, but be less than 10% bf.



Sorry for the novel fellas, just trying to get it all out there for the most help I can get. A lot of questions, so answer as many as you can or would like to. All info/criticism/pointers/knowledge dropping/man-heckling is encouraged. I have read all of the stickies (pretty sure ) and looking for some additional input from some more knowledgeable bros.



Thanks fellas!

 

[huffy80]

Well, I don't think anyone here is going to say this is a good first cycle or really a good cycle period. From the sounds of it, the gels/sprays, etc are pretty minimal with the increase in test. At your age, it will shut down your natty test production for something that is minimally higher.

Here's my advice. You're good size and young. You can get to your goals without pinning. But, figuring you will anyway, if you can hold off a year or 2, do it. Then do a TEST only cycle of 400-600 ml per week for 12-14 weeks.

 

[Redskins123]

Well, I don't think anyone here is going to say this is a good first cycle or really a good cycle period. From the sounds of it, the gels/sprays, etc are pretty minimal with the increase in test. At your age, it will shut down your natty test production for something that is minimally higher.

Here's my advice. You're good size and young. You can get to your goals without pinning. But, figuring you will anyway, if you can hold off a year or 2, do it. Then do a TEST only cycle of 400-600 ml per week for 12-14 weeks.

I hear ya. I'm not planning on doing it right now, just planning and seeing what people like yourself feel on it. So hopefully I will be able to stumble upon someone who can legit hook me up somehow. If not, thats why I'm contemplating cycle like these.