Megatron28
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And you understand that it is much more likely that this will occur while you're endocrine system is still developing right? That is why we encourage guys to wait until they are 25 years old.
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And you understand that it is much more likely that this will occur while you're endocrine system is still developing right? That is why we encourage guys to wait until they are 25 years old.
Megatron28
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You really need to learn how to eat and train prior to running a cycle. If you can't pack on 10 pounds of muscle in your current state, running a cycle isnn going to magically fix that. I have seen a lot of guys get fatter running AAS.
Diet and training come first. AAS is just the icing on the cake. I would really encourage you to work with a diet coach. It is much cheaper. Infinitely safer. Legal. And I promise you will get better results.
We will be here to help you run AAS when the time is right. I promise to help you.
Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
if you're injecting 500mg of test a week, and wait 2 weeks to start PCT, you still have at least 250mg in your body....PCT isn't very strong. That dose will overwhelm it and PCT won't do shit.
Megatron28
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Did you calculate the remaining half lives of all the cumulative doses you will have taken Kaspain? What number did you come up with rather than the 250mg?
Well i wouldnt obvioussly have an exact number no one would have an exact number like i would say in the range of below 100mg but i mean when they say half life thats for all the test u injected your lost shot which will last 12 days they have done studies on this but not on what he said about still half of the dose being their . But if thats the case when would you start pct then.
Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
ok, I don't think you know what a half-life is.
Half-life (t1***8260;2) is the amount of time required for the amount of something to fall to half its initial value. The term is very commonly used in nuclear physics to describe how quickly unstable atoms undergo radioactive decay, but it is also used more generally for discussing any type of exponential decay.
It LITERALLY is a called half life as it describes how long for HALF the value to be present. So if you're injecting 500mg a week, guess what, in 12-14 days (half life of cyp and enth), you'll have....HALF.
It won't be exactly 250mg....but it'll be close and still such a significant dose that PCT will be meaningless
Half-life (t1***8260;2) is the amount of time required for the amount of something to fall to half its initial value. The term is very commonly used in nuclear physics to describe how quickly unstable atoms undergo radioactive decay, but it is also used more generally for discussing any type of exponential decay.
It LITERALLY is a called half life as it describes how long for HALF the value to be present. So if you're injecting 500mg a week, guess what, in 12-14 days (half life of cyp and enth), you'll have....HALF.
It won't be exactly 250mg....but it'll be close and still such a significant dose that PCT will be meaningless
Megatron28
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You have to calculate the half life on each injection. Waterfall them.
Also note that the half life of Test E/CC is debated. I recall seeing that it is in the 5 day range.
Let's play out two injections of 500mg one week apart to keep the numbers simple. And to make it even simpler lets assume the half life is 7 days. I like easy math for illustrations.
Day 0: inject 500mg
Day 7: Inject 500mg
Test remaining on Day 7 is 250 + 500 = 750
Test remaining on Day 14 is 125 + 250 = 375
Test remaining on Day 21 is 62.5 + 125 = 187.5
Test remaining on Day 28 is 31.25 + 100 = 131.25
And so on. Now I do suspect that the half life isn't completely linear -- that it accelerates towards the end. And everyone has different metabolisms.
But don't make the mistake of just considering the last injection. You have to look at all the cumulative injections.
This is why it takes Test E/C about 6 weeks to reach peak and stable serum blood levels. That is to say where what you are adding each week replaces what is being metabolized.
Also note that the half life of Test E/CC is debated. I recall seeing that it is in the 5 day range.
Let's play out two injections of 500mg one week apart to keep the numbers simple. And to make it even simpler lets assume the half life is 7 days. I like easy math for illustrations.
Day 0: inject 500mg
Day 7: Inject 500mg
Test remaining on Day 7 is 250 + 500 = 750
Test remaining on Day 14 is 125 + 250 = 375
Test remaining on Day 21 is 62.5 + 125 = 187.5
Test remaining on Day 28 is 31.25 + 100 = 131.25
And so on. Now I do suspect that the half life isn't completely linear -- that it accelerates towards the end. And everyone has different metabolisms.
But don't make the mistake of just considering the last injection. You have to look at all the cumulative injections.
This is why it takes Test E/C about 6 weeks to reach peak and stable serum blood levels. That is to say where what you are adding each week replaces what is being metabolized.
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Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
It becomes more exponential at the end...but it would be annoying to show people that without parabolas.
So as Mega showed, this is why if you're taking 1g of test a week....around 4-4.5 weeks is required. You just have such a significant amount in you that PCT can't work!
Megatron28
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Kaspain: are you beginning to see that you need to do a lot more research? A lot of your beliefs and ideas have been shown to be wrong on this thread. You are making assumptions about things you don't understand.
You seem like a reasonable guy. You have shown that you are willing to change your thinking on things when shown new information. That is a good trait. Please continue this and take our advice to wait until you are older and ready (physically and knowledge).
None of us are trying to make a profit off you. We are just trying to help you
You seem like a reasonable guy. You have shown that you are willing to change your thinking on things when shown new information. That is a good trait. Please continue this and take our advice to wait until you are older and ready (physically and knowledge).
None of us are trying to make a profit off you. We are just trying to help you
definately agree and appreciate the help a lot Ive seen alot of other bullshit on other forums saying their own opinions not knowing what their saying without any research which is good about you guys are that you have a good amount of knowledge on how everthing works and are willing to help others as well which I thank you guys for that. Also for my example just so I have a better understanding if I shoot 50mg of test and wait 12 days at the 12 day mark will the left over test in my body be 25mg?
Ziegler
light weightlifter
Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
This is the sticky thread:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
it's literally under the section titled "WHAT SHOULD I RUN FOR PCT?"
Don't go talking shit like I don't want to help you. You're a little runt that came here thinking he knew his shit and was brought up short. Now you can't even read a fucking thread or do a forum search. Come on. I don't want to treat you like a bitch but you sure make it hard...
Megatron28
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Depends on what you are assuming the half life is.
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