First Test Cycle! (First injection today)

[lingweno]

Hello!

So after five years of natural Bodybuilding i'v decided to try my first Testosterone Cycle. Now After doing my research and talking to experienced lifters with knowledge on this topic I have simple decided it might be time to give this ago.

So i'v decided to keep it simple and start off with a beginner cycle.

(copy and pasted from a site)
Testosterone-Cypionate: 250mg-500mg per week
Week 13-15 you will take nothing and let the testosterone begin to clear out
Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day

I'v also bought clomid along side the nolvadex to get things kicked started again.

Now I was wondering what week and dosage i would start at for the clomid?

I also did my first injection today in the delt! My brother helped me out because i was a little nervous! Other then alittle pinch at the start it went perfectly fine!

Thanks for reading this and i hope to talk to you all soon!

Current body pics are in my profile and avatar!

 

[Megatron28]

How old are your? How much test are you running a week? What you wrote was unclear.

Why no AI? AI's are a must.

You may want to consider using hCG during your cycle to help with recovery.

 

[Big Dan T]

AI's are a must to have on stand by... I never needed to use one. Everybody is going to react differently accorded to your body, not what you read about this guy and that guy... But the point here is yes, you need to have an AI on hand in case of gyno. I would recommend armidex as and AI... let me make this simple, but scary... if you do not have an AI and you begin to get gyno, you cannot cold turkey anabolic or you will have some serious problems... also if you get gyno, and you dont have a way to combat it, you will need surgery to remove it, surgery bro... thousands of dollars and weeks out of the gym.... all this over a little prep work.... educate yourself before you hurt yourself bro... good luck on your journey

 

[Megatron28]

AI's are a must to have on stand by... I never needed to use one. Everybody is going to react differently accorded to your body, not what you read about this guy and that guy... But the point here is yes, you need to have an AI on hand in case of gyno. I would recommend armidex as and AI... let me make this simple, but scary... if you do not have an AI and you begin to get gyno, you cannot cold turkey anabolic or you will have some serious problems... also if you get gyno, and you dont have a way to combat it, you will need surgery to remove it, surgery bro... thousands of dollars and weeks out of the gym.... all this over a little prep work.... educate yourself before you hurt yourself bro... good luck on your journey

Most guys run an AI the whole time they are on cycle to prevent high estrogen. Waiting for gyno is like closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

Dan, how much test have you been running on cycle and what were your E2 levels? Just curious to see what you did to not need an AI on cycle.

 

[tbonexl]

An ai on hand ain't gonna do shit if gyno pops up. That's why it is ran during the cycle. Nolvadex is good to have "on hand" cuz it will reduce gyno if it appears.

 

[Big Dan T]

I keep it simple, i got a grip on my estrogen levels, I just know my body... i run simple 2 or 3 compound cycles.... test-c/deca/anadrol or test/deca/dbol.... if i notice my ankles getting big, or my nips hurting I'll pop some arimidex for a few days, about a week and everything normals out for me... i never go over 750mg of test or 300 mg of deca... i keep anadrol and dbol both at 50mg ED... like I said bro... I never seem to have a problem with it... thank you lord.

 

[Megatron28]

I keep it simple, i got a grip on my estrogen levels, I just know my body... i run simple 2 or 3 compound cycles.... test-c/deca/anadrol or test/deca/dbol.... if i notice my ankles getting big, or my nips hurting I'll pop some arimidex for a few days, about a week and everything normals out for me... i never go over 750mg of test or 300 mg of deca... i keep anadrol and dbol both at 50mg ED... like I said bro... I never seem to have a problem with it... thank you lord.

That's great, but what are your E2 numbers on cycle? That is the only way to truly know if your EW is too low or too high.

 

[Big Dan T]

That's great, but what are your E2 numbers on cycle? That is the only way to truly know if your EW is too low or too high.

it stays pretty consistent around the middle 30's

 

[STAUNCHED427]

E2 should be controlled whether or not you are experiencing sides or not, you wouldn't want e2 elevated off cycle so why would you want it on cycle. Whilst I agree e2 does play a role in building muscle, I don't believe as much e2 you can run without gyno is smart.

OP, what dose of test are you running and what is your injection frequency?

 

[riprockwell]

Always run an AI from the start. Whether you need an AI or how much is verified by blood work. Being this is his first cycle, like Mega said, let's keep the horse in the barn and run it from the start. As for Clomid, you start your Clomid the same time you start your Nolva and guys run Clomid at 75/50/50/50 alongside with your Nolva. How old are you and how much test are you running? Also get some HCG like Mega suggested.