First test e cycle - any advice appreciated

[tom2189]

Hi Guys,

Never posted before so hope this is in the right place, apologies if not!
I am aiming to start my first AAS cycle in the new year, I have been working out for 6 years, will be 25 at the time cycle begins.

I will be running test-e for 10 weeks cycle, at the moment looks like this:

weeks 1-10 test e @ 500mg (250 split into 2 shots)
Weeks 3 -10 HCG @ 500UI per week (250 split into 2 shots)
AI on hand (Anastrazole) during cycle

Weeks 11-12 HCG @ 500UI per week

Weeks 13-16 PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/75/50/50

A few questions I had after doing research:
whether to go for a 12 week course over a 10?
I have used PH's before and had no sides, so could I use one during the first 4 weeks of this cycle?

I would appreciate any feedback, changes, advice anyone has.

 

[555_____]

Without asking you your life history (which some may do before they write anything)
Just use 250 mgs test a week, dont bother with anything else, its your first time, you will grow off anything.

 

[Megatron28]

Without asking you your life history (which some may do before they write anything). Just use 250 mgs test a week, dont bother with anything else, its your first time, you will grow off anything.

250mg / week is what some guys use for TRT (upper end of the range). I strongly urge you to disregard 555's advice about only using 250mg per week. If you are going to put yourself through shutting down your HPTA you should at least take your total testosterone to supra physiological levels. And you definitely should use AI, hCG and run PCT. Again, don't listen to 555.

Run the AI. Don't just have it one hand. Try .25mg EOD.

10 or 12 weeks is up to you.

I will others opine on the use of prohormones.

 

[halfwit]

Agree with the decepticon above me. Would definitely run NAC if you're using a PH as a kick-start to the cycle - which is fine btw.

 

[Kulturysta]

Go for 12 weeks since you won't feel Testosterone kick in until week 4 or even 5, and that is why people usually use an oral for the first weeks. Most popular orals to kick start Test only cycle include Dbol or Superdrol.

 

[Wheyson]

dont forget pre-bloodwork to establish ur basal values
mid-cycle bloodwork to evaluate
post-cycle bloodwork to

YEAAHHHHH.... i contributed too!!! Give me some suga !!!!

 

[Inhuman2012]

Without asking you your life history (which some may do before they write anything)
Just use 250 mgs test a week, dont bother with anything else, its your first time, you will grow off anything.

Unlike some he must of read the stickies. He gave us what is usually asked for age ,training history, cycle history! Anything less than 500mg a week on a test only cycle is gonna cause more harm than good. As been said before!

 

[thades]

Not bashing 555, but I'd agree with the others that suggest 500mg ew...doesn't make a ton of sense to shut yourself down for 20% more than natural.

I agree about starting th AI at .25mg eod. Definitely go 12 weeks, those last two weeks will make a real difference with the enanthate ester.

I'd run dbol the first four weeks, but superdrol or another pro hormone would be fine if you have experience with them and respond well. Get some NAC, worth it

 

[insanepain]

good luck! Im starting my cycle in 2 days of test E at 300 every 4 days, and with researching it seems test e really kicks in about week 4 so you may want to use an oral to kickstart it, up to you, im not

 

[riprockwell]

Listen to Megatron. Do the dose you have lined up but run it 12 weeks. I don't run long ester test for shorter than 12 weeks. Eat good and get a good training program and enjoy. Good luck!

 

[555_____]

OK , OP, just listen to the other guys, they are telling you what you want to hear.

Just for the record, my first cycle was 6 tabs Winstrol a day for 8 weeks total.
I gained 14lbs and lost 10 when I came off, a good 4lb of muscle in 8 weeks which I kept.

Noboby wants to keep it simple these days, everyone thinks they are fucking scientists.

Anyway, good luck op , in two years you will be up to 3 grams a week with nowhere to go if you take the advice given elsewhere.

 

[bulk_cut]

I would start off running 400mg/week and not kick start it with anything. I would also run it for 16 weeks. Normal test production is approx 50mg - 70mg week depending on age. At 25yrs old lets say your body normally produces 70mg/week. If your cycle is 400mg/week you will be increasing your normal levels by almost 6 times their normal level. You will see results from this! Also since this is your first cycle it's important to see how your body/minds reacts to it and part of that includes slowly going through the ramp up at the begining which you won't experience if you use anything at the beginning.

As far as AI, HCG, and PCT - I can't offer any advice on that.

 

[LetsGoHeavyBro]

I would start off running 400mg/week and not kick start it with anything. I would also run it for 16 weeks. Normal test production is approx 50mg - 70mg week depending on age. At 25yrs old lets say your body normally produces 70mg/week. If your cycle is 400mg/week you will be increasing your normal levels by almost 6 times their normal level. You will see results from this! Also since this is your first cycle it's important to see how your body/minds reacts to it and part of that includes slowly going through the ramp up at the begining which you won't experience if you use anything at the beginning.

As far as AI, HCG, and PCT - I can't offer any advice on that.

I agree with this ...

 

[DreDay187]

OK , OP, just listen to the other guys, they are telling you what you want to hear.

Just for the record, my first cycle was 6 tabs Winstrol a day for 8 weeks total.
I gained 14lbs and lost 10 when I came off, a good 4lb of muscle in 8 weeks which I kept.

Noboby wants to keep it simple these days, everyone thinks they are fucking scientists.

Anyway, good luck op , in two years you will be up to 3 grams a week with nowhere to go if you take the advice given elsewhere.

You're funny when you're floundering for answers and responses

 

[Rida5d]

You're funny when you're floundering for answers and responses

I feel u gonna change ur title soon from beast666 fan club president to 555 fan club president.
Is it a coincidence that guys who choose a nick name with 3 identical numbers are retarded?
Let's wait and see.

 

[halfwit]

OK , OP, just listen to the other guys, they are telling you what you want to hear.

Just for the record, my first cycle was 6 tabs Winstrol a day for 8 weeks total.
I gained 14lbs and lost 10 when I came off, a good 4lb of muscle in 8 weeks which I kept.

Noboby wants to keep it simple these days, everyone thinks they are fucking scientists.

Anyway, good luck op , in two years you will be up to 3 grams a week with nowhere to go if you take the advice given elsewhere.

Whoaaaaaaa.

My sarcasm detector must be low on caffeine this fine Monday morning. I can't tell if you're seriously this dim or just playing. Anyhoo, good morning 'ology!

 

[555_____]

You're funny when you're floundering for answers and responses

I wasn't answering a question or responding to a specific post, none were asked or required.
I was posting my experiences and my opinion.

Op can do what he likes.

 

[DreDay187]

I wasn't answering a question or responding to a specific post, none were asked or required.
I was posting my experiences and my opinion.

Op can do what he likes.

OK , OP, just listen to the other guys, they are telling you what you want to hear.

Just for the record, my first cycle was 6 tabs Winstrol a day for 8 weeks total.
I gained 14lbs and lost 10 when I came off, a good 4lb of muscle in 8 weeks which I kept.

Noboby wants to keep it simple these days, everyone thinks they are fucking scientists.

Anyway, good luck op , in two years you will be up to 3 grams a week with nowhere to go if you take the advice given elsewhere.

That was a direct response to being told you were wrong...yet again. Every time someone tells you you're wrong you wind up acting like someone stole your favorite teddy bear instead of owning up to it. Then when others explain why your advice is wrong you whine about everyone being a scientist. That's not an opinion, it's acting butthurt brother.

 

[555_____]

I dont recall anyone in this thread telling me i was wrong,(although inhuman did say 250mgs of test would do more harm than good????) they just offered differing advice.
Do you think the op would make gains on 250mgs test alone or not, it is after all his first ever cycle.

 

[riprockwell]

I dont recall anyone in this thread telling me i was wrong,(although inhuman did say 250mgs of test would do more harm than good????) they just offered differing advice.
Do you think the op would make gains on 250mgs test alone or not, it is after all his first ever cycle.

I will add and say that I grew nicely on my first cycle which was 300mg per week. However that was over a decade ago. Knowing what I know now, I would suggest everyone to start off at least 400mg per week, but preferably 500mg per week. Like Megatron said, you are going to experience shutdown so you might as well get the most out of the cycle. 500mg per week is pretty much the norm. On a side note, there are guys who I know personally that are on TRT who inject 200mg per week and have a total test peak of 1100. An 18 year old can have that level and not experience any significant muscle grow. Hence why I advocate 500mg per week to ensure those levels are "well" over 2K.