First Test E/Dbol Cycle for complete newb

[westcoastian1]

Hey everyone,

Starting my first Test E/Dbol cycle in a few days. Just wanted to run it by you seasoned vets to get your take.

My background:

29 y/o male
170 lbs
12% BF

Born with an undescended testicle, so effectively only have one. That said, I'm told the one I have pretty much makes up for the lack of the other one. Normal sex drive, good stamina/endurance/body hair, etc. However, I do see limits in the gains I get in the gym. While I've only been lifting heavy for about 9 months, and taking plenty of protein/creatine along with it, my muscular gain isn't too great. I've gotten my T levels tested, and while my doctor said it is on the "low" side, it's not low enough for him to prescribe test as he felt "it wasn't worth the risk".

So, after lots of research, I've decided to go for a straight forward first cycle noob approach. Would love to hear your feedback. Cycle I'm prepped for:

12 weeks - 300 m/g Test E per week, once a week
6 weeks - Dbol, 20 m/g a day to jumpstart
Week 14-15 - Nothing so test can clear out system
Week 16-17 - Nolvadex 40 m/g a day
Weeks 18-19 - Nolvadex 20 m/g a day

Thoughts and feedback?

Thanks.

 

[Milton]

welcome to the forums! Is this your fist cycle?

 

[westcoastian1]

welcome to the forums! Is this your fist cycle?

Thank you!

Yes it is.

 

[Anon44]

Do test only for your first cycle. Drop the dbol.

 

[Gainjin260]

Add Clomid to PCT and run HCG from the start of your cycle, unless you want to "effectively have" no testicles. It'll keep the one you have from shutting down and shrinking.

 

[tbonexl]

Read up on the ology faq's thread. 300mgs is a bit low for a cycle. Your dbol dose is a bit low too and doesn't belong in a recommended first cycle. You didn't mention running an ai, hcg or nothing about bloodwork. Nolva is only half your pct. Need to add clomid too. Diet is the most important key to gains. You said something about protein and creatine. If your only change to your diet is drinking protein shakes and creatine, you most likely need to overhaul your diet.

 

[Shovel]

^^^ what he said. The first cycle is mostly about learning to eat "right" and eat enough.

 

[fitguy22]

firs cycle should be TEST only. as you progress you can add One new compound to see which compound isn't for you.
Ai, HCG and Pct is a must for every cycle, obv test as base.
DBoll will be beneficial at 50+ Mg a day
Test e/c dosage should be atlas 400mg ,preferbaly split into two dosages of 200Mg On monday morning and another 200 Mg on thursday after noon. 3.5 days apart. this helps maintain blood level.


as for your proposed cycle, id buy some more essentials before starting.
my cycle would look something like this:

Test e 400-500 mg week 1-12 split into two shots
dboll week 1-4 60mg Ed
Ai 0.25mg eod for the first few weeks and taper it up based on how much i need.
HCG 1000ui a week till PCT

pct:
Climid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

id save the dbol for the next cycle tho.
good luck

 

[bigben66]

1. - Up the Test to 500mg - split into 2 x 250mg injections every Mon/Thurs
2. - Drop the D'Bol - if you start to aromatise in the first few weeks, you'll have to jump ship and you won't have a clue whether it was the Test or the D'Bol that caused the raised estrogen, so you've learnt nothing!
3. Run HCG from week 1 of cycle until 3 days before PCT - inject 250iu's (sub-q) - twice weekly.
4. Run your AI from week 1 of cycle up til PCT - if it is Arimidex, start at 0.5mg E3D and adjust according to mid-cycle bloods.

5. Run a standard Clomid/Nolva PCT for 4 weeks.
Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex - 40/40/20/20