First Test P cycle. Need advice.
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Megatron28
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Age? Height? Weight? Body fat %? Years training?
Just talked to my vendor. According to him 150mg eod is too much for first cycle.
Q1: if the same PCT protocol is uesed for 100mg and 150mg eod then lowering test dose is just waste of money?
Q2: I heard a rumors that it is always better use test from ampoulse than form vials (the logic is that for underground labs it is harder to manufacture ampoules). Is there any truth? Using vials seems to me are much more convenient for splitting..
Q1: if the same PCT protocol is uesed for 100mg and 150mg eod then lowering test dose is just waste of money?
Q2: I heard a rumors that it is always better use test from ampoulse than form vials (the logic is that for underground labs it is harder to manufacture ampoules). Is there any truth? Using vials seems to me are much more convenient for splitting..
Megatron28
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150mg EOD is 525mg per week. That is a standard first test cycle dosage. Looks good to me.
Q1: is answered by what I wrote above, but regardless, it would not look at it that way
Q2: Vials are much more convenient unless you are injecting the exact amount contained in your ampules. But there is no guarantee with ampules either. There are plenty of fakes out there. The key is finding a trusted source and then verifying it with blood work.
Thanks guys. I feel sorry that you find my questions very foolish. The problem is not that I don't pick up info. I am researching this topic for a while. It is hard to understand, why someone is saying that 500mg test and 200-400 deca is ok to start with and you can find another dude, who is convinced that 150 test prop eod is too much. In the end of the day I have to make a decision based on advice of random people which I don't ever really know 
Megatron28
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Thanks guys. I feel sorry that you find my questions very foolish. The problem is not that I don't pick up info. I am researching this topic for a while. It is hard to understand, why someone is saying that 500mg test and 200-400 deca is ok to start with and you can find another dude, who is convinced that 150 test prop eod is too much. In the end of the day I have to make a decision based on advice of random people which I don't ever really know
Rather than just simply take advice and follow it, spend time doing research so you can make your own informed decisions.
For example, how much natural testosterone do you (or the average person) produce daily? How much exogenous test would you have yo take to replace that? How much would you want to take for supraphysiological teat levels?
Should you take all the risks that come with shutting down your HPTA and not get the benefits of acheiving supraphysiological test levels?
And so on. Be informed.
Also, keep in mind that nobody here is trying to sell you anything or make a profit off you. We are just like-minded individuals sharing knowledge and helping each other out.
Well, finally my gear has arrived.
4000 ml Test prop
Arimidex (local vendors don't has the aromasin...)
Nolva
Clomid
I have a few new questions about cortisol. What is the best way to avoid it after cycle? As far as I understand, cortisol levels stays elevated for around ~6 weeks? I have heard some rumors that vitamin C and Vit. E can do the work. On the other hand, can low doses of Clen help? BTW, after few weeks I am going to be a father
. Not sure how it will affect me and my training in a first months...
4000 ml Test prop
Arimidex (local vendors don't has the aromasin...)
Nolva
Clomid
I have a few new questions about cortisol. What is the best way to avoid it after cycle? As far as I understand, cortisol levels stays elevated for around ~6 weeks? I have heard some rumors that vitamin C and Vit. E can do the work. On the other hand, can low doses of Clen help? BTW, after few weeks I am going to be a father
. Not sure how it will affect me and my training in a first months...
Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
Well, finally my gear has arrived.
4000 ml Test prop
Arimidex (local vendors don't has the aromasin...)
Nolva
Clomid
I have a few new questions about cortisol. What is the best way to avoid it after cycle? As far as I understand, cortisol levels stays elevated for around ~6 weeks? I have heard some rumors that vitamin C and Vit. E can do the work. On the other hand, can low doses of Clen help? BTW, after few weeks I am going to be a father
4000ml of test?
aka
4 LITRES???
Sorry for the bad math 
Roush
I am banned!
Yes run your AI from the start of cycle.. How long is your cycle?
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