First Tren-E cycle, pro.advise needed..!!!

[TurBro]

Hi everyone,
I've searched the forum, didn't find a decent answer to my questions.
In a month i was planning on starting my third cycle, previous two cycles i ran Test-E, Masterone.
Used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the whole cycles and always did a good post cycle therapy (pct). Last cycle was 4 month ago (After pct).
This cycle i was planning on running Test-E and Tren-E, i was planning on 10-12 weeks cycle.

I am 30 y.o , 100 kg, BF -13-15%. Train hard, I eat very clean, don't smoke or drink alcohol.
For Test-E i got myself a Pharma Grade genuine Testoviron Depot, as for Tren-E I will probably get a PharmaComLabs – PharmaTren-E200.
I am not necessary planning on a bulking cycle, I am looking for a clean and lean muscle gain.

My questions is, how should a first Tren-E cycle look like.? Timing, dosages..?
What should I add to the cycle for better results (Boldenon, Masteron etc.)..?
What changes should I make to my diet while running Tren..?

Thank you all for your help, any input would be very much appreciated..!!!

 

[Truushot]

Ok here is my $.02. I would not use masteron due to the fact that you may be a little soft for it at this point in time. I would wait until your next cycle to use it because you see yourself getting harder the leaner you are. Sub 10% is ideal.

As far as your cycle goes I would run the test for a minimum of 12 weeks with 14 being better. I say this because with both long estered hormones you really have to build up for the first 2.5 to 3 weeks. I would run the tren for 8 weeks going out to 10 if you can manage it. Dosage of it works good for me at 400 mg's/week.

I think it is important to point out that tren works different on everyone. I would say do acetate first if you have it. It has a much shorter half-life and the sides can get crazy so you can be done with it in a day or 2 and have that horrible chapter of your life over quick. (if it effects you that way)

Get some prami or caber just incase you have some some sides.

Good luck man. Tren is a like a fine ass bitch...Can make you feel good for a while but all the sudden you find yourself heart broken with a gun in your hand.

 

[TurBro]

Thank you for your reply 'Truushot', especially liked the "fine ass bitch" analogy..!!!
I can and will get Tren-A for my first cycle, thank you for your advice.

 

[UserAt204]

Tren is not the evil demon everyone thinks. It's got some sides, but usually at high doses or mixed with a high dose of test.

Honestly, 500 TE, 400 tren e and you should be golden. I think you should add mast simply because it will allow for more free test, and tren will shred you, I prefer tren ace and never use E but that's your choice. Mast also keeps me feeling good on 19nors for some reason, so I like to add mast to everything but only at 300-350 a week.

It will help decrease estro a little because of lowered shbg.

But mast is not needed in the cycle by any means. Test can do any thing you need. If you can't get it done on test/tren then your whole program is off.

I know guys running 2 grams of tren. They have been at it a long time and are retarded or trying for a pro card but IMO its still too much.

But ace is better start, you see changes fast, but if for some reason it effects you in an odd way like it does a few guys then you can drop it and be done quick. For 3rd cycle I think you good at 500/400. Add mast if you feel like it, even at 50mg 3 times a week just to get a little boost from mast, but I wouldn't add it at anything higher that 300-400.

You also need to watch your BP on this cycle, it will be going up. That's here damage from AAS comes from mainly. Low sodium, high water, cardio.

 

[TurBro]

Thanks for your reply UserAt204 ,
I was thinking of runing 750-Te and 400 Tren-a/e, but now probably will try 600TE and 400TrenA.

 

[Truushot]

I would just do 500 test and 400 tren and here is why...

Tren is awesome and tren ace is the shit. You will stay harder if you keep the test e down and the tren will give you all the gains you need. 100 mg isn't that big of difference and your gear will last longer. Run the test at 500 mg and just try to stretch it out longer.

Drink a bunch of water and do some low intensity cardio. Also mix in some vitamin b6 and if you have a touch of t3 like 30 mcg's per day do that. Helps with the prolactin.

Lastly make sure you eat on tren. Really really eat protien and carbs. Carbs are your friend on tren if you want to grow. Keto will only make you feel hungry and weak. Carbs will help you get strong and make you grow like a weed. Run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) too .25 eod to keep the test bloat down.

Also there is nothing evil about tren. People just act goofy on it sometimes. I think it has to do with sex drive and not getting laid enough but that is just my point of view.

Tren makes me kind of clingy to my wife which is hard to admit but wtf I aint scared to say it.

 

[TurBro]

Thanks for your honesty man, really appreciate your help.
I said 600mg of Test-e, because i am running a pharma grade Testoviron depot, i get it in pharmacy, and it's 1.25ml in each ampule, so it's about 280-300mg of Test per each shot.
If i won't shoot it it goes to waste, and there is no way i am wasting even 0.2ml of this stuff )))
I am looking for a Pharma grade Veterinarian Tren-Ace in order to avoid underground stuff, but currently as it seems like this stuff is really hard to find, and i will probably will have to run PharmaComLabs tren.

Thanks agian..!!!