Gathering info on D-bol, first cycle

[Joerip]

Hey guys ive read some Faqs and newbie must read articles so here goes
]I'm looking to do my first cycle and will just do d-Bol for six weeks.
I'm giving myself ten weeks to do all the research and prep, tests ect
So firstly getting a blood test done, what am I looking for in the results?
Then how long before my next test? And what changes should i expect?

I understand this isn't a conversation I want to have with my doctor, so I appreciate any help

Also, what other tests and/ or steps do i need to take?
And lastly what do I need to do post cycle?

I understand its a lot to ask but although I've trained most my life I'm a complete novice when it comes to steroids and have only been reading for about a year.

Cheers guys

 

[tex24]

You clearly haven't been reading newbie faqs etc if you want to do an oral only cycle. If you want to use steroids man the fuck up and pin testosterone with it or don't use at all

 

[Russell77]

LOTS on here with much more experience than me, but I believe they will all agree to NOT do an oral only cycle...

If you are absolutely set on "taking something" like many are, focus your research on how to take 300-500mg/wk of test E.

I believe Dbol will stop your natural test production, and that you'd be dumb to not replace it. Also if you're going that far down the road then 6 weeks isn't long enough to make it worth it. You'd want to go 10-12 weeks, and THEN do a real PCT.

One thing I've really noticed over the last few years of going from a complete newb to a partial newb is way too many newbs seem to think you can just get a bit shut down, or shutting down for a short spurt is somehow ok. Even if you bounce back magically after it's all done, the cons of low test during a time you're trying to grow muscle FAR outweighs the benefits

just my 2c

Also I just wrote a post on how Dbol made me feel like absolute shit. Lots of guys also assume orals are somehow easier on your body, but from my experience they are far harsher.

 

[Wheyson]

Test-E for 12weeks & Dbol for 6weeks cycle
Have your AIs and SERMs
Incorporate HCG
Do a proper PCT (you want a speedy recovery and keep the mass gained, right?)
Blood-work for RBC, WBS, testosterone, FSH, LH, estradiol, sodium, potassium, BUN, etc etc (pre, middle and post)
Liver-support (NAC) during cycle. 2400mg/day while on Test-E/Dbol and 1200mg/day while on Dbol only
Consult Austinite´s and 3J´s sticky´s. That (hotass) girl and our diet-guru have some proper info you dont want to miss out on while juicing

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Lets start by asking your age diet and training experience. Welcome to the site. Looking at your pic it's clear that a steroid alternative is the best for you. You don't a have a muscle base to build on yet. The truth is it is 80% diet. if your not gaining with out drugs your won't keep the gains you put on with drugs. I recommend a health alternative to steroids. something Like a mass stack at Juice Pump - Your Oral Anabolic Source It good for 10 -15 pound over 12-20 depending on you eating the right thing at the right time. I'm going to edit the title so you don't get flamed. Make some friends and don't be offended by the response your get on this thread. It's not going to be pretty.

So lets talk stats.

 

[LetsLift]

Well props for asking the necessary questions and doing some research. However, a Dianabol only cycle is not a good idea. It will shut down your natural testosterone and probably lead to minimal gains. Check out the thread about planning your first cycle. That will give you all the information you need regarding what blood work to get done.

This is a great read: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycle-planning-executing-successful-cycle.html

Typically the best way to go about it would be getting bloods done pre, during, and post cycle.

As far as PCT you may want to check out the threads that are stickied. They contain the necessary information regarding PCT protocol.

Again, without a stable diet and training regimen PED's will do little good.

 

[Norsegod]

Please do not do an oral only cycle. We need stats. Age, weight, height, training, diet... I mean no disrespect, but you look young in that pic and I agree with the above. You aren't big enough for gear. You have a lot of genetic potential left. Btw, you either weren't reading and tried to pull a fast one or what you read was bs. You have to be careful where you get your info. There is a lot of bad info on the net

 

[ChaseTheYoke]

Lets start by asking your age diet and training experience. Welcome to the site. Looking at your pic it's clear that a steroid alternative is the best for you. You don't a have a muscle base to build on yet. The truth is it is 80% diet. if your not gaining with out drugs your won't keep the gains you put on with drugs. I recommend a health alternative to steroids. something Like a mass stack at Juice Pump - Your Oral Anabolic Source It good for 10 -15 pound over 12-20 depending on you eating the right thing at the right time. I'm going to edit the title so you don't get flamed. Make some friends and don't be offended by the response your get on this thread. It's not going to be pretty.

So lets talk stats.

Gotta grab me some of that Dekkabolan... shit looks LEGIT

 

[Joerip]

Yes, sweet thanks heaps for the replies, yeah I had a feeling there was much more to it.
Yeah sweet I'm 27 yr old
5'10"
23% bf
82kg
Currently doing j stoppanis short cut to shred
I was 102kg in July last year with 27% bf and only stated dieting then. I've always played sport and been active, played Aussie rules for 13 years, started karate when I was 19 moved to Muay Thai kickboxing at 21 and shifted between that and boxing since.
I train cardio by doing sprints, long distance running and pack marching usually carrying 40kg over 18 to 20 km
I understand cardio long hard cardio eats muscle this is by experiment which is the only way I can truly believe, but yeh body building is a whole different game i realise its a complete lifestyle, and most people in my experience (which is only a couple of years) who are serious are real positive and happy to help. I know I havnt taken it seriously so not offended, it's cool.
Also thanks for the complement on being young and the advice on generic improvement, truth is i wanted to know if I was ready for it and if I'm not so be it, that's cool I'll keep training, do a bulk in April anyhow just natural and continue studying steroids until I ready.
Haha oh one last thing,
To the bloke who first replied to me after all the info everyone else just gave me it makes you look childish, disciplined fighting has taught me to keep an extremely cool head, and i feel you might want to try meditating because attempting to demotivated people to feel validated is only temporary fix, you will end up frustrated. I'm not looking for a fight over the net just information and a good yarn
Cheers

 

[Norsegod]

Oh my... yeah with that high of a bf% you would get a lot of bad sides. The more bf the more aromitase enzymes you have so the more e2 you'll produce. Especially on a dig like dbol. One you get your bf down to about 14-15% at the very most, then you should be good to cycle. You would grow tits right now. lol. Just keep training and try to pack on as much lbm and cut as much bf as you can naturally. When you're ready then we will all be more than happy to help you. Until then, stick around, and that way by the time you are ready you will be so much better off with what you will learn from the bros on here. Remember, cutting fat is all about nutrition. We have a great guy for that in here. He goes by 3j. Fare priced and great at what he does. Good luck, and keep training, brother

 

[tex24]

To the bloke who first replied to me after all the info everyone else just gave me it makes you look childish, disciplined fighting has taught me to keep an extremely cool head, and i feel you might want to try meditating because attempting to demotivated people to feel validated is only temporary fix, you will end up frustrated. I'm not looking for a fight over the net just information and a good yarn
Cheers

It's quite frustrating how many people make threads like this wanting to do oral only cycles. And after you claimed to have been doing research, it is more frustrating since you clearly have not. I am not sure why you think I am demotivating you, or why you think I am looking for validation. I do not need validation. I am telling you to pin test with it (the correct thing to do) or don't use AAS at all. Simple as that

And after reading more about you...wanting to use AAS, especially a wet compound like dbol, at 23% bodyfat, screams once again that you did not do any research. Sorry "bloke" I'm just being real with you.

 

[wiggywild]

OP is that you in your avatar? It's hard to tell but you look a little less than 23% to me. Still as everyone has said wait until 15% b.f. at the most and incorporate Test E. Also get your pre cycle bloods done before you order. I found out I have elevated liver enzymes and I could have done some real liver damage if I decided to use dbol.

 

[Strong Man]

you have been reading for a year on AAS?? You dont know how to run a proper pct or have never heard that a oral only cycle is a bad idea?? After a year of reading?

When you joined this site did you not see all the sticky at the top of the forum?

You could spend a half hour reading them and you would not be asking these questions. Be smart, Good luck!

 

[tbonexl]

you have been reading for a year on AAS?? You dont know how to run a proper pct or have never heard that a oral only cycle is a bad idea?? After a year of reading?

When you joined this site did you not see all the sticky at the top of the forum?

You could spend a half hour reading them and you would not be asking these questions. Be smart, Good luck!

Amen

 

[Joerip]

Ok, once again cheers for the feed back guys
Yeah that is me in my avatar and I also agree it does look like my bf% is lower than 23% and it could well be because I invested only $80 in some scales that tell me all my stats and now starting to believe they're not accurate.
Anyhow I still need to train and cut fat.
I joined this site a year ago because that's when I started looking for workouts and plans for training but I also found other sites, I'm not even on the net everyday apart from work stuff, let alone on this forum.
I came back, because a friend at work who is a user wanted to give me some d-Bol for a good price and I wanted toile sure I didn't just jump into it.
Although he is enthusiastic about me benefiting from it, I've come to realise his not a friend at all, infact a cunt because one he is wrong and secondly he is a user and was trying to use that to selle his shit.
I apreciate all the replies, and I will make an effort to stick around, get my diet right, continue to train hard and stay positive.
Bodybuilding looks like an amazing lifestyle and I see its not for everyone.
Tex I apologise for offending you, I do call it as I see it, and I'm happy you're here to give it to me straight up.
Alright cheers guys
Thanks again