Havoc/M-LMG stack

[Hull Tech]

I've decided to put the whole Deca idea on hold till I've got a firmer grasp of just about everything revolving around serious steroids..

I've got HAVOC but I keep reading how this product is better utilized in a stack. So i've been on the search for a mild type II, non Andro binding PH. I was looking for a 3-AD but can't find it anywhere. Then stumbled across a M-LMG clone in double dragon SOS 500, this product appears to be a proper clone and I have seen this compound recommended as a good stack.

If anyone has or knows of someone who has used this stack I would appreciate feedback and advice; will the havoc offset the mild gyno potential in M-LMG or should I be using on cycle support, if so what..

For post cycle therapy (pct) I've got clomi and Osta 15mg. On cycle I've got liver care, krill oil and solid multi vit pack, my combined cholesterol is 4.0.

My past cycle exp. is with Sarms ( S4 or Osta)/Albut, SARMS( Osta/S4)/Clen/T3 stacks.

 

[gymrat827]

LMG is more prolactin than gyno really. L dopa, B6, P5P, vitex are all good to stop it. but prami, caber is going to be the best route. LMG isnt too bad tho.

Id just take L-dopa, vitex, and a low dose Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while on. you should be fine with that. forma stanzol is very good for progesterone's and aromatizing compounds. Take 3-4 pumps AM/PM with the LMG as your Aromatase inhibitor (AI).


dose it around 75-125mg ED

 

[essays]

Just to give you heads up bro, those two compounds will shut you down just as much as deca.

There's a reason everyone's first cycle should be test.

 

[Spongy]

Just to give you heads up bro, those two compounds will shut you down just as much as deca.

There's a reason everyone's first cycle should be test.

Just out of curiosity, is it the M-LMG that shuts your down hard? I took Epi solo and wasn't all that shut down. Still did a proper post cycle therapy (pct) to ensure I didn't lose the gains, but probably could have recovered with a natty test booster. I have no experience with M-LMG which is why I'm asking.

 

[essays]

Just out of curiosity, is it the M-LMG that shuts your down hard? I took Epi solo and wasn't all that shut down. Still did a proper post cycle therapy (pct) to ensure I didn't lose the gains, but probably could have recovered with a natty test booster. I have no experience with M-LMG which is why I'm asking.

Epi can cause shutdown at 60mg ED in a little over a month, mlmg is slightly worse. The two combined will shut you down. What's the point of using two compounds that will shut you down if that was your concern with a deca cycle?

 

[Spongy]

Epi can cause shutdown at 60mg ED in a little over a month, mlmg is slightly worse. The two combined will shut you down. What's the point of using two compounds that will shut you down if that was your concern with a deca cycle?

I wasn't planning to run Deca, I just hijacked the thread to ask you that question. My bad. I didn't run Epi that high so that's probably why I didn't have much shutdown. Good stuff essays, thanks for the information.

 

[essays]

I wasn't planning to run Deca, I just hijacked the thread to ask you that question. My bad. I didn't run Epi that high so that's probably why I didn't have much shutdown. Good stuff essays, thanks for the information.

Sorry, I shouldn't have said "your". In the first post, the OP said he scrapped a deca cycle. That's what I was referring to.

 

[Spongy]

Sorry, I shouldn't have said "your". In the first post, the OP said he scrapped a deca cycle. That's what I was referring to.

Gotcha Bro, great information though. Definitely appreciated.

 

[gymrat827]

run the havoc at 40mg.....60 is too much really. 50 at the most.

 

[Hull Tech]

Deca was removed from my list simply because of the issues surrounding the administration of the product and my lack of skill with anything injectable. Also I'm not comfortable having that in the house with 2, under 5 children around. I can put bottles of 'supplements' in my lock-up on base with no worries of kids. You never bring injectable equipment near base.. ever.

Guess I should have put down the cycle spec, I am going to run a straight 30/30/30/30 havoc.

The thinking was that since Epi is a type 1 PH(binds to androgen receptor ) and a Type 2 PH ( does not), they will work in conjunction much more effectively. I really wanted a 3-AD/4-AD but have no clue who makes it any more, if someone could point me in the right direction I'd love to get some for my next cycle in late spring. Might as well get all my ducks in a row now for the next cycle.

As far as PCT is concerned: If I'm just gong to do a simple Havoc cycle, Clomi and Osta should be enough I am assuming, however, on the off chance, what signs am I looking for that will let me know I need to take Tamox and has anyone tried Torem as an alternative to Tamox? or is Torem overkill for this particular stack.