HCG absolutely essential for first cycle?

I'm a blast guy. I like using it after the cycle 1000iu every other day for 10 days between last shot and start if post cycle therapy (pct). I just don't think it makes sense to fill your body with hormones (juice) that tell your body to stop producing naturally then fill your body with another substance (HCG) that tells your body to produce. Is it absolutely necessary? No. Will it make your recovery better than clo/nolva alone? YES!
 
I got into ordering steril vials and all that junk, but then I got on here and was informed I could just inject the bac water in the small vial the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) comes in. So I did. If your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is like mine, it's 5000iu worth of powder. Simply inject 1ml of bac water then withdraw .2 ml of the liquid mixed with the powder and boom you have a shot of 1000iu of HCG. I use slin pins and inject into body fat at stomach. You can you tube it for all the other details.
 
I'm a blast guy. I like using it after the cycle 1000iu every other day for 10 days between last shot and start if post cycle therapy (pct). I just don't think it makes sense to fill your body with hormones (juice) that tell your body to stop producing naturally then fill your body with another substance (HCG) that tells your body to produce. Is it absolutely necessary? No. Will it make your recovery better than clo/nolva alone? YES!

Its been debated here a shitton but doesnt the overstimulation of leydig cells with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at doses higher than 500IUs cause intratesticular E2 problems?
 
Its been debated here a shitton but doesnt the overstimulation of leydig cells with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at doses higher than 500IUs cause intratesticular E2 problems?

Over stimulation of these cells isn't possible. Theres a maximum stimulatory effect and any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use above this level will either be wasted and not metabolized or in some cases can desensitize the Ledyig cells and leave them less responsive to LH. Intra testicular E2 is a cause for concern though if using too much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and typical AI's will not be sufficient to bring it down. There's only so much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that the body can metabolize.
 
Over stimulation of these cells isn't possible. Theres a maximum stimulatory effect and any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use above this level will either be wasted and not metabolized or in some cases can desensitize the Ledyig cells and leave them less responsive to LH. Intra testicular E2 is a cause for concern though if using too much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and typical AI's will not be sufficient to bring it down. There's only so much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that the body can metabolize.

That's correct. I've used the term 'overstimulation' myself, which is actually inaccurate. On point above. Oversupplying would be a more accurate description of the event.
 
That's correct. I've used the term 'overstimulation' myself, which is actually inaccurate. On point above. Oversupplying would be a more accurate description of the event.

I know I've used it as well lol. In my case I rush to type an asnwer out before considering the words I use haha
 
Over stimulation of these cells isn't possible. Theres a maximum stimulatory effect and any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use above this level will either be wasted and not metabolized or in some cases can desensitize the Ledyig cells and leave them less responsive to LH. Intra testicular E2 is a cause for concern though if using too much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and typical AI's will not be sufficient to bring it down. There's only so much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that the body can metabolize.

Thank you Dre. I was hoping I wasn't too far off base lol. I swear u and Austinite seem to be on the same page more often than not tho. U guys deliver solid info. Love the way U guys present things too. I wouldn't be surprised if Austinite was a teacher or professor at some point in his career. His presentation of how he breaks down his articles is indicative of that. Or he's just a really good writer!! Yes, I know he writes for a supplement company now right?
 
Thank you Dre. I was hoping I wasn't too far off base lol. I swear u and Austinite seem to be on the same page more often than not tho. U guys deliver solid info. Love the way U guys present things too. I wouldn't be surprised if Austinite was a teacher or professor at some point in his career. His presentation of how he breaks down his articles is indicative of that. Or he's just a really good writer!! Yes, I know he writes for a supplement company now right?

Not a problem brother, you were right except for the technicality in the phrasing lol. Don't know about his past but you're right, he'd make a damn good teacher with the way he simplifies things. Thanks for the kind words my man :)
 
Not a problem brother, you were right except for the technicality in the phrasing lol. Don't know about his past but you're right, he'd make a damn good teacher with the way he simplifies things. Thanks for the kind words my man :)

Well I'm learning then lol! You're welcome dude. Thank u for your contributions :)
 
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