Hcg how and when

[balboa270]

this all depends on what your taking how much your taking and you act like I dont know people too. Man its not a proven science on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) its a fuckin experiment period so take what you want I preach what thousands do with results you preach what few can know for sure. end of story

 

[OX]

for the sake of arguing we are not the same. I say wait till the test levels drop and you say dont wait. Completely different.

 

[balboa270]

for the sake of arguing we are not the same. I say wait till the test levels drop and you say dont wait. Completely different.

how can you ever know for sure when to start. When my way does not hurt you at all

 

[OX]

how can you ever know for sure when to start. When my way does not hurt you at all

You can get really close with simple math. Its def not right after your last shot lol

But like you said..it wont hurt ya

why do something unecessary?

 

[balboa270]

You can get really close with simple math. Its def not right after your last shot lol

But like you said..it wont hurt ya

why do something unecessary?

why guess on unnecessary

 

[OX]

lol balboa is this the only thread you post in?

 

[balboa270]

lol balboa is this the only thread you post in?

when theres a ass present ....yes

 

[OX]

thats every thread you post in then lol

 

[balboa270]

thats every thread you post in then lol

reckon so

 

[brownchoclit]

yes i was on just 500mg test/week.

i was using 500iu's/twice a week on cycle..and now my plan was to blase 2000iu's eod for ten days..wait 4 more days and then start serms..

pretty much the standard protocol except i am blasting 2000iu's each shot.

i was looking at scally's protocol and thats why i decided to boost the blast shot to 2000iu's...but apparently he has changed his view on the original hcg protocol (where hcg overlapped serm use) and from there on it just got complicated...so i just reverted back to the more traditional blast method but with higher blast dosage...

but now thanks for more reading (more confused that ever haha)..been seeing about the half life and all..should i have just coninued by bi/weekly 500iu shots for another week after the last test shot and just starting blasting for another 10 days after that and then serms?? sounds like this is what i should have done...

 

[Stone]

I think I just finished my second bag of popcorn lol.
IMO, no one is really wrong here...
I do think you'd benefit from Balboas method, although I wouldn't deem it 'necessary'.
Neugene had a very good point about the residual half life effect.
IMO this come way more into play with short esters like Prop or Ace. They clear so fast you really don't have time to wait till they reach physiological levels because this period doesn't leave enough time for a full blast. This is where Balboas method shines... Short esters.
With enanthate esters and longer you have a large window of physiologic levels that can accomadate a typical 10 day blast. But not with shorter esters...

 

[zackoneill]

Man if i have a 10ml bottle of test 250 e and a 10ml of equpoise 200. what else should i have or get? how much more of the two i have will i need to get. how much and how long should i run the cycle. how much test e should i take a week andhow much equpoise should i take? first pin last week just 1ml test 250. 2nd pin friday 1ml test 250 1ml equpoise. should i add another ml equpoise on tues too? or leave it?

 

[OX]

yes i was on just 500mg test/week.

i was using 500iu's/twice a week on cycle..and now my plan was to blase 2000iu's eod for ten days..wait 4 more days and then start serms..

pretty much the standard protocol except i am blasting 2000iu's each shot.

i was looking at scally's protocol and thats why i decided to boost the blast shot to 2000iu's...but apparently he has changed his view on the original Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol (where Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) overlapped serm use) and from there on it just got complicated...so i just reverted back to the more traditional blast method but with higher blast dosage...

but now thanks for more reading (more confused that ever haha)..been seeing about the half life and all..should i have just coninued by bi/weekly 500iu shots for another week after the last test shot and just starting blasting for another 10 days after that and then serms?? sounds like this is what i should have done...

Dr scallys protocol isnt very difficult. Blast 2000iu eod for 10 shots then start the serm portion.

Yes you would just continue bi weekly Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shots until you have below 200mg of active aas in your blood.

 

[OX]

I think I just finished my second bag of popcorn lol.
IMO, no one is really wrong here...
I do think you'd benefit from Balboas method, although I wouldn't deem it 'necessary'.
Neugene had a very good point about the residual half life effect.
IMO this come way more into play with short esters like Prop or Ace. They clear so fast you really don't have time to wait till they reach physiological levels because this period doesn't leave enough time for a full blast. This is where Balboas method shines... Short esters.
With enanthate esters and longer you have a large window of physiologic levels that can accomadate a typical 10 day blast. But not with shorter esters...

Glad you enjoyed yourself stone lol

You are correct although there is still a little bit of time for aas to clear even with prop but its a matter of days not weeks. My entire argument on this thread was based on long esters. Balboa wasnt wrong with his thought process but he also isnt progressive enough to advance his knowledge (some of us call that hard headed or stubborn) lol To shed some light for balboa...his way wouldnt hurt anything but you would be wasting alot of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if you did it his way while using long esters.

 

[OX]

Man if i have a 10ml bottle of test 250 e and a 10ml of equpoise 200. For a 10 week cycle you would need one more bottle of test. I wouldnt waste my time with the eq unless you were planning on running some high dosages and for a minimum of 16 weeks. what else should i have or get? You will need an anti estrogen such as arimidex. Starting dose is .25mg eod. You will also need clomid and nolvadex. how much more of the two i have will i need to get. See above comments how much and how long should i run the cycle. 10 - 12 weeks if its your first. how much test e should i take a week andhow much equpoise should i take? test will be 1ml every mon and thurs which is 500mg per week. Save the eq. first pin last week just 1ml test 250. 2nd pin friday 1ml test 250 1ml equpoise. should i add another ml equpoise on tues too? or leave it?

How much of both have you already done? Man you need to slow the fuck down. You have no idea what your doing and you already started shit?

 

[balboa270]

I still disagree because one man thinks it.

 

[OX]

I still disagree because one man thinks it.

Why are you hung up on the one man thing? This isn't new information. Just because hundreds of people are not promoting something that has no evidence of success (like the blast after your last shot thing) doesn't mean its not right. Cashout just happens to have evidence to back it up.

Ever since I've noticed you on this site I have noticed that you just repeat info that others think or say....you need to evolve past that phase and decipher information for yourself so you can make educated decisions....not parroted ones

 

[brownchoclit]

hey OX..scally's earlier post cycle therapy (pct) protocol had the serms and hcg overlapping and that protocol proved successful..why was it changed later on? meaning what wrong with the two of them over lapping?

 

[Bullishness]

Brown, If you read 'more failed PCT's' cashflow covers why hcg and serms should not overlap. I think its a 4 day delay before serms.

 

[Bullishness]

Also, i have noticed that their is alot of old 20th Century sayings and 'old school ways' on this forum. It is refreshing to hear about something new that has worked with results behind it. Moving aas ideas, concepts, and technology into the 21st Century...