HCG Timing with Test every 5 days....

[tenn2525]

Hey guys, I recently switched to Test every 5 days instead of every 7, I am liking it so far. But as far as my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Adex go I hear it is best to pin 2 days after test but to pin twice per week is it OK to pin Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the day before the test ? Is the timing of the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) really that crucial?

Here is what I am currently trying to achieve.

Test 200mg every 5 days
HCG 500iu with .5mg Adex twice per week.

Thanks

 

[Youngblood43]

Most people use adex EOD. .25-.5 mg.
As far as the hcg, it doesn't really matter when u do it. Just two times a week like Monday Thursday for example. As long as u get it in u it will do its job.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Thats a good schedule but there is no way to plan our your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) really. You could try Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD, or just make sure you get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2x per week and try not to take it on the same day as your test.

I like the 5 day schedule.

When I say no way to plan, you could do 1 day before and 2 days after

 

[BD7]

^^ I agree.. I pin my first Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with my T pin and the 2nd of the week 3.5 days later.. also 500 iu.. you won't notice a difference I don' think. I'd just pin the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with your T for convenience if it were me..

 

[BD7]

^^^ Oak, I've been doing it this way for a couple of months and haven't notice a bit of difference.. I'm only pinning T E7D though.. why, in your opinion do you not like to take with your T, to big a spike in E?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

^^^ Oak, I've been doing it this way for a couple of months and haven't notice a bit of difference.. I'm only pinning T E7D though.. why, in your opinion do you not like to take with your T, to big a spike in E?

yea hopefully to ward of an estrogen spike, honestly I know a lot of guys that take it together. Some will notice a difference, so I guess its just good practice.

Im never opposed to trying new things, especially when something isn't working.

Surprising your not feeling better on TRT.

Have you had full labs lately?

 

[BD7]

@Oak, I sent you an email with my labs a couple of weeks ago.. and a PM also..
In regards to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to keep this thread on point, maybe I don't notice a difference for two reasons
1) My normal pre-trt levels were very low to begin with .. under 17
2) My T pin is only 126mg E7D.. maybe that and 500 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) isn't quite enough to feel anything. I take .5 Aromatase inhibitor (AI) the day after my T/HCG pin and .25 3.5 days later with my second Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) pin.

BTW, when i said above " I haven't noticed a bit of difference" I was only referring to pinning the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the same day as T.. On testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) i've noticed 'some' difference.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

@Oak, I sent you an email with my labs a couple of weeks ago.. and a PM also..
In regards to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to keep this thread on point, maybe I don't notice a difference for two reasons
1) My normal pre-trt levels were very low to begin with .. under 17
2) My T pin is only 126mg E7D.. maybe that and 500 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) isn't quite enough to feel anything. I take .5 Aromatase inhibitor (AI) the day after my T/HCG pin and .25 3.5 days later with my second Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) pin.

BTW, when i said above " I haven't noticed a bit of difference" I was only referring to pinning the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the same day as T.. On testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) i've noticed 'some' difference.

Ok I see now.


have you tried going without the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) yet? or have you had that in there since the beginning?

 

[BD7]

I went without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for 6 weeks I think. In the beginning.. I had both the sensitive and normal e2 tests done (for the sake of science) and they were in the low 50's.. I believe 52 and 54 respectively. So I @ the time kept on 64mg T, 500iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) E3.5D and added .75AI.. since have switched to E7D for convenience and the T spike you referred to in many posts and like I said above Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500 iu with my T pin and .5 Aromatase inhibitor (AI) the day after.. then 3.5 days later 500 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and I take .25 Aromatase inhibitor (AI) then. So I pin the T/ Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on wednesday, Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on thrusday (.5), and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) again on Sunday am with .25 AI.. So on a Wednesday before my pin of course I had labs done, but only the female (NON e2 sensitive test) and E2 came back at 23.1 pg/ml. Not sure what the E2 sensitive would have been.
I'm feeling about 70% of where I want to be but better than pre-TRT for sure. Maybe 126mg T / week just isn't enough but my Total T came back @ 826 ng/dl.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I think your right man, seems everything numbers wise is working out good and you have dialed in that way for sure. It may be time to see what a couple 200mg shots do for you

 

[BD7]

I'm on a rapid weight loss month right now.. I think the 200mg might help since my diet is in check! Will pin 200mg next week and check back with you..
Will also go with HCG one day after (even though that's changing two variables at once) just b/c I know the odds of a E spike will go up greatly with a 200mg pin vs. 126mg.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

keep us posted

 

[300winmag]

im on 250IUs of HCG every everyother, is there a benefit to twice a week at 500ius.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

it really just boils down to personal preference and how sensitive you are to certain doses of HCG, some guys will not feel an effect at the 150IU dose, so for them doing larger doses is better.

 

[300winmag]

thanks maybe I will try as it would mean less pinning. Right now I feel the affects of HCG with nothing bad for the time being.