Help needed with first cycle

[Micklos]

Ok, so like so many people, I thought Oral-only seemed like a good idea, until I did a bit of research. Then I decided to go test-enanthate only. But, because of a lack of knowledge, I ordered the gear in ready made cycles, together with the PCT. (Ok, so that was lazy research, but all I could lose was money. I'm sure as Hell going to make sure I have a good cycle before I stab anything into my butt)

So, in total, this is what I have handy:

300x 5mg tabs Dianabol (It was supposed to be 150 10mg tabs, but...same thing)
14X 250mg Test Enanthate (it was an 8 week cycle, 500mg/week, but 250 on first and last weeks)
2000mg Deca ( I assume this is in one or two vials)
20X 25mg tabs proviron (for some reason this is only taken on weeks 3,5 and 7. I have no idea why)
60X Nolvadex 10mg tabs
60X Clomid 50mg tabs


So...what I'm thinking is to leave the Test as is and just do an 8 week cycle, ditch the Deca until next time, use the D-bol for 3 or 4 weeks to kick-start. and save the other half to start another cycle

Not sure what to do with the proviron. Also, what PCT will I need? It doesn't matter if I don't save enough of the Nolva or Clomid (or anything else for that matter) for a second cycle, as next time, I will buy each thing I need separately, rather than listen to they guys actually selling the stuff.

For the record, I'm 37 yrs old, 5'10 185Lb sub 10%bf and I've been lifting for ...no idea. But over ten years, but I worked a very labour intensive job, so mass wasn't my main concern for the first 8 and a bit of those

I have plenty of NAC handy, too.

 

[Megatron28]

Run test only for 12 weeks. Get more if you don't have enough for 12 weeks.

Don't use an oral your first cycle.

Use clomid and nolva for PCT. Start about 2 weeks after your last pin.

No need to start with a lower dose or end with a lower dose of test. Just use 500mg all the way through.

You need to get an aromatase inhibitor. Arimidex or aromasin.

Look into using HCG while in cycle too.

Have you gotten pre-cycle baseline blood work yet? Do you know how to get it while on cycle and after your cycle?

 

[Micklos]

Will do. People talk of having an AI "on hand". Are they implying that you only use it if you notice Gyno symptoms, and don't touch it otherwise? That's what it sounds like.
Also...how well do these things keep? I know most pharma grade pills are good for years even after the expiry date, but not so sure about UGL stuff. I'm assuming the Deca will be fine if the seal is never broken and it's kept cool. If I have to throw stuff away, I will. Because I'm unlikely to start another cycle until the autumn at the earliest.

Run test only for 12 weeks. Get more if you don't have enough for 12 weeks.

Don't use an oral your first cycle.

Use clomid and nolva for PCT. Start about 2 weeks after your last pin.

No need to start with a lower dose or end with a lower dose of test. Just use 500mg all the way through.

You need to get an aromatase inhibitor. Arimidex or aromasin.

Look into using HCG while in cycle too.

Have you gotten pre-cycle baseline blood work yet? Do you know how to get it while on cycle and after your cycle?

I'm looking into getting the blood done now. Is there a specific test or series of tests? Or do they just do everything? I worked in a Haematology lab for a few weeks as a teenager, and all the samples just went into a big machine...
Anyway, I assume that's something I can arrange at my doctors surgery? I'm not sure, cus I'd assume I'd have to go private for that. Well, I can Google that.

 

[Megatron28]

Guys who keep AI on hand until they get symptoms get gyno. Would you rather prevent gyno or treat gyno? And there are a LOT of other negative side effects of high estradiol. Use it. Don't keep it on hand for just in case. Read up on the aromatase enzyme.

Keep your gear in a cool dark clean place and it should keep for years.

Go to Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online and get the Hormone Panel for Females. It is for men too. That should cover your blood work bases for this Test Only cycle. Get mid and post cycle blood work too.

It sounds like you have been doing some research which is great, but you have a lot more that you need to do. Hang around her and keep reading. Start with all the sticky posts.

 

[Micklos]

Cool. I just ordered the extra test for a 12 week cycle and arimidex. I've been reading the stickies, but only on this sub-forum so far. I haven't checked out the entire site. My source doesn't seem to have HCG unless it has a brand name. I'll look into the blood work now. Thanks for your help.

Guys who keep AI on hand until they get symptoms get gyno. Would you rather prevent gyno or treat gyno? And there are a LOT of other negative side effects of high estradiol. Use it. Don't keep it on hand for just in case. Read up on the aromatase enzyme.

Keep your gear in a cool dark clean place and it should keep for years.

Go to Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online and get the Hormone Panel for Females. It is for men too. That should cover your blood work bases for this Test Only cycle. Get mid and post cycle blood work too.

It sounds like you have been doing some research which is great, but you have a lot more that you need to do. Hang around her and keep reading. Start with all the sticky posts.

 

[Megatron28]

Good luck with a successful cycle.

 

[Micklos]

Should be fun. I've been stocking up on food for a while. Even bought a new food processor/smoothie maker/blender (aren't they all the same thing, really?)

The link for the bloodworks only lists locations in the US, but I'm sure I can find somewhere locally. No idea if tehre are any private labs around here, though. No way NHS will offer it unless I can blag it somehow...maybe if I tell them I have urges to make men buy me drinks and lend me their credit card...